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What IF: Frazier vs. Holyfield



When former heavyweight champs Joe Frazier and Evander Holyfield are mentioned, many of the same adjectives can be used to describe them. Words such as heart, toughness, determination and character immediately come to mind. It can be said with impunity that Frazier and Holyfield gave their all every time they climbed into the ring.

Many distinct parallels can be drawn between these two great fighters, one of them being that they're both former Olympians. At the 1964 U.S. Olympic Trials, Joe Frazier lost to Buster Mathis in the finals of the heavyweight division. However, Mathis injured his hand shortly before leaving for Tokyo. As a result Frazier, as the alternate, went in his place. When Frazier returned to U.S. soil, he was the only American fighter to have won a gold medal.

Evander Holyfield's Olympic memories are not quite as good as Joe Frazier's. At the 1984 U.S. Olympic Trials, Holyfield, fighting as a light heavyweight, was not the favorite in the division, and had to beat the favored Ricky Womack twice within 24 hours to make the team. At the Games in Los Angeles, Holyfield was disqualified in the semifinals for knocking out his opponent with a left hook that was ruled to have been thrown at the break. Because he was DQed, Holyfield had to settle for the bronze medal.

Frazier and Holyfield both went on to become all-time great heavyweight champions. The fact that they achieved greatness in two of the deepest heavyweight eras in boxing history –  the ‘70s for Frazier and the ‘90s for Holyfield – is further testament to their greatness. They were lucky to have other great fighters to measure themselves against.

In my opinion, Frazier and Holyfield are overlooked by some boxing writers and historians. Frazier had the misfortune of fighting during the Ali era, and rarely gets his due as a great fighter. For Holyfield, it was the presence of Mike Tyson that lingered over him and all that he accomplished.

Almost thirty years have passed since Frazier traded punches with Ali in Manila. What has been lost in the memory of Manila is that Joe Frazier won the biggest of the three fights he and Muhammad Ali fought against each other. The second and third meeting were two of Ali’s toughest, most hard-earned victories. Only one question was asked of Frazier during his career: could he beat Ali?  On March 8, 1971, Frazier answered that question – yes, he could beat Muhammad Ali.

What Ali was to Frazier, Mike Tyson was to Evander Holyfield. On November 9, 1996, Holyfield showed an unbelieving boxing world that he could defeat Tyson, by beating him convincingly. The rematch was the only time in Tyson’s career that he got a second shot at someone who beat him. In that fight, whatever chance Tyson had of salvaging the rivalry was lost forever; after losing the first two rounds, Tyson bit both of Holyfield’s ears in the third and was disqualified.

Before Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier ever traded punches, Ali was perceived as the greater fighter. After fighting 41 rounds over the course of three fights, Ali is still viewed as the greater fighter in the eyes of history. However, Ali said, “I always bring out the best in my opponents but it’s Joe Frazier who brings out the best in me.”

Mike Tyson was thought to be the better fighter before he and Evander Holyfield faced each other. With his two wins over Tyson, Holyfield proved that he was the greater fighter and must be ranked higher historically.

Style Matchup and Common Opponents

Frazier and Holyfield can best be described as the quintessential overachievers. They were not physically big heavyweights, and often gave up height, weight and reach to their contemporaries. However, “Smokin’ Joe” and the “Real Deal” had something that helped compensate for what they gave up in size; something that didn't show up on the tale of the tape. They were fighters down to their core, and both possessed an unbreakable will to win.

In the ring Frazier and Holyfield were true warriors and loved to fight. Holyfield was a counter-puncher who also had good boxing skills. He was versatile fighter; adept at figuring out what his opponent didn't like to do, then forcing them to do it. Holyfield was also willing to slug it out with his opponent at the drop of a hat.

Frazier was a relentless swarmer who applied constant pressure. He only knew one way to fight: cut off the ring and try to get inside. Everything he did was centered on landing his left hook, thrown like a whip, to his opponents head or body. It didn't matter as long as it made contact. Frazier was a tireless worker with tremendous stamina and fought better as the fight progressed.

Jerry Quarry was the only fighter Frazier fought who was similar to Holyfield in style and temperament. Quarry was a counterpuncher like Holyfield who was also more than willing to trade. The difference was that Quarry didn't load up and loop punches as much as Evander in the heat of battle. Another thing Quarry and Holyfield had in common was their huge heart and the ability to take a great punch. The difference between them was Holyfield was a little bigger and stronger and wasn't prone to getting cut like Quarry.

Holyfield fought three opponents who were similar to Frazier: Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Bert Cooper and Mike Tyson. Qawi wasn't as big as Frazier and didn't hit as hard. Cooper was a Frazier protégé, but lacked Joe's endurance and toughness. Mike Tyson had quicker hands and was a better two handed puncher than Frazier, but Frazier was a stronger inside fighter and cut off the ring better.

There were other differences between Frazier and Tyson. Frazier was much tougher mentally and emotionally than Tyson, and applied more pressure while cutting off the ring. Tyson, a quick starter, was considered more dangerous early, but faded down the stretch, especially if confronted with resistance. Tyson was also vulnerable to self doubt and lost confidence if things didn't go his way during the fight. In contrast, Frazier fought through adversity and never thought he couldn't win.

Who Would’ve Won

Frazier fought his best during the years 1968-71, and Holyfield performed at his best between 1990-93. Both were most comfortable fighting in the 205-210 pound range. Had they faced each other at their respective apexes, I doubt the fight would go the distance.

For Holyfield to beat Frazier he'd have to keep from going to war with him; something he’d find difficult. Holyfield could punch, but not like Foreman, so I doubt he could take Frazier out inside the distance. He also didn't have the hand or foot speed of Ali, and didn’t exhibit as much pinpoint accuracy in his punch placement.

Holyfield was super-tough and much stronger than he gets credit for. But Frazier was so good at cutting off the ring, Holyfield would have no choice but to go to war with him. Holyfield was also susceptible to being slowed by a sustained body attack, and Frazier was one of the best body punchers in heavyweight history.

In the end Holyfield's mindset of “kill or be killed” would draw him into a slugfest with Frazier. That's the wrong approach, especially if you don't possess one-punch knockout power. In my opinion, Frazier at his best comes out on top against Holyfield at his best. The difference would ultimately come down to Holyfield's heart being too big and his punch not being quite big enough.

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In Boxing News: Floyd Mayweather An All-Time Great, Valuev & More



A Shot of Boxing on the Last Day of the Year

The Guardian reports that talks have already taken place between Nicolay Valuev‘s co-promoters – Don King and Wilfried Sauerland – and Danny Williams‘ promoter Frank Warren for Nicolay Valuev to face Danny Williams. I’d suggest Danny Williams needs to worry about Matt Skelton (who Williams is reportedly scheduled to fight in February) before he entertains notions of facing the Beast From The East.

The Mirror in the UK looks forward to a big year in boxing for 2006. The Mirror considers what the future might bring for Joe Calzaghe, Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton, among others.

The Parksville Qualicum News has an interesting column on the travails of former Canadian Super Middleweight title holder Mark Woolnough. Woolnough’s career turned controversial – as widely reported in the Canadian press – at the beginning of this year when Woolnough and four other men were charged with manslaughter and assault after a fight outside a Parksville nightclub. The case returns to court next month. It’s an interesting read, as Woolnough is still looking to the future with hope.

Our own Marc Lichtenfeld provides plenty of food for thought with his Top Ten Wish List for boxing in the New Year. There’s plenty of good stuff here, but what really jumped out for me is Lichtenfeld’s opinion that a win over Zab Judah could have Floyd Mayweather knocking on the door of all-time great status. Seems to me this might be jumping the gun a little. Or is Marc right? Will it soon be time to call Floyd Mayweather Jr. an all-time great?

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ShoBox Friday Night Fights




Hot bantamweight prospect Raul “The Cobra” Martinez heads back to Chicago next Friday night as he is featured in the co-main event of SHOBOX “THE NEW GENERATION,” an action packed evening of professional boxing presented by Dominic Pesoli’s 8 Count Productions,’ HOME OF THE BEST IN CHICAGO BOXING, Kathy Duva’s Main Events Inc., along with Miller Lite and TCF Bank.

The two-time national amateur champion sporting a perfect 12-0 record with 9 knockouts, six of which have come in the first round,  will take on Colombian Andres “Andy Boy” Ledesma, 13-1 (8 KOs) in a scheduled eight round bout.

Speaking after a training session at his home gym in Georgetown, Texas, Martinez said, “I’m truly looking forward to returning to Chicago. The fans were terrific in September, they were very supportive from the start of the fight,” an internationally televised first round knockout of Miguel Martinez on September 16th at the Aragon Ballroom.

Regarding his upcoming fight with Ledesma, “The Cobra” said, “I haven’t seen him fight, although I understand he’s fought at higher weights and will be naturally bigger than me. I’ve had great training for this fight and feel very confident. I really haven’t left the gym in months, just taking off Sunday’s and even then I get my running in. My thinking is that fights are won in the gym and complete preparation is the key.”

When asked about his being mentioned by Dan Rafael, ESPN’s boxing writer as one of the top prospect’s in the boxing world the 23-year-old San Antonio native said, ‘It’s a great compliment, but I still have much work to do. I want to be a champion for Main Events like Fernando Vargas and Arturo Gatti. But like Fernando said while he was in town, ‘be patient, work hard and your time will come.’”

Finishing the conversation, Martinez said, “I’m looking forward to starting out this year with a bang. I might have a couple less fights than the seven I had in 2005, but I’m looking to stepping up the competition, move up to ten-rounders and climb in the rankings.”

Headlining the evening is a ten-round welterweight showdown between boxing’s hottest prospect, unbeaten Joel Julio of Monteria, Columbia, and Ugandan native Roberto “The Doctor” Kamya. Julio, turning 21 years old the day before the fight, is 25-0 with 22 knockouts, twelve of which have come in the first two rounds. Kamya, now fighting out of West Palm Beach, Florida is 15-5 with four knockouts.

Tickets, starting at $30, are on sale in advance by calling 312-226-5800. Cicero Stadium is located at 1909 S. Laramie, at the corner of 19th and Laramie, just ten minutes south of the Eisenhower Expressway and ten minutes north of the Stevenson Expressway. Doors for this evening will open at 6pm with the first bell at 7pm.

The full bout lineup for the evening is:

Joel Julio vs. Roberto Kamya, ten rounds, welterweights

Raul Martinez vs. Andres Ledesma, eight rounds, bantamweights

Miguel Hernandez vs. Butch Hajicek, eight rounds, middleweights

David Pareja vs. Derek Andrews, eight rounds, light heavyweights

Mike Gonzales vs. Tony Kinney, four rounds, lightweights

Omar Reyes vs. Luis Navarro, five rounds, featherweights

Reynaldo Reyes vs. Ricardo Swift, four rounds, middleweights

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Pick ‘Em: Plenty of Big Upcoming Fights in ’06



Here’s the early call on many top matches scheduled for the first half of 2006: Happy New Year!

As the new calendar dawns, there are already a considerable amount of premium bouts on the horizon. Things don’t look to be bogged down by undetermined championships next year. In many cases the scheduled face-offs involve the best fighters in the division, or at least close enough for general bragging rights. If anybody else with proper qualifications signs up to force the issue, all the better.

It can be argued that some pairings could have taken place within a more optimal timeframe, or that some headliners carry distracting baggage, but there are certainly enough heavy hitters on deck. That nobody can deny.

It doesn’t matter whether one considers the proverbial glass half empty or half full; there’s still the same amount of juice in the vessel. It’s nice to know that even with a high number of cancellations, there will still be plenty of important contenders on tap.

With elite fighters in weight divisions from top to bottom on the agenda, it’s an equivalent to what fans in more mainstream sports expect in a consistent championship format.

Baseball fans can almost always count on a World Series. Some hoops fanatics say too much attention to playoffs distracts unmotivated NBA teams during their regular season. In college, they project Sweet Sixteens. Football fans know there’s always a Super Bowl ahead to raise advertising dollars and test the USA’s halftime morals.

So too, there is method in boxing’s current madness.

The midnight crystal ball hasn’t even been unveiled in Times Square and there are already a number of potential thrillers scheduled. Most feature contrasting personalities that almost guarantee going along for the ride will be worthwhile. Any subsequent drops will probably be cheered.

Don King jumps right out of the auld lang gate with a January 7th Showtime card featuring Zab Judah against Carlos Baldomir and Jean-Marc Mormeck in a cruiserweight unification against O’Neil Bell.

It will be the upset of the year, bar none, if Baldomir can tip the applecart before Judah gets to his scheduled super-showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr. Meanwhile, Mormeck is emerging and should keep on rolling against Bell, who can expose him if he’s not for real.

The proverbial Big Bang starts with a January 21st rematch of one of the finest fights of ‘05, when Erik Morales goes against Manny Pacquaio for the second time on HBO pay per view. The fact that Morales was upset by Zahir Raheem after beating Pacquaio was no real loss in box-office luster. Artful Raheem will get a spot on the undercard and hope his patience is rewarded.

Everyone figures Morales and Pacquaio will pick up where they left off. Like the first time, the rematch is a pick’em contest. Management distractions and glove restrictions cited as Pacquaio’s previous problems won’t matter this time. The two are very evenly matched and their styles will make for another whapathon. It could come down to corners, where Freddie Roach gets the edge since Morales will have a new trainer for the first time since replacing his father after the Raheem lesson.

February features four of the game’s most enduring attractions, in a pair of crucial matchups.

First up, Showtime presents the Jose Luis Castillo – Diego Corrales tiebreaker from El Paso on Feb 4th. This is another pick ‘em pair, barring any sideshow. In boxing that disclaimer may be a stretch, since the sideshow is part of the act and the charm.

As far as action inside the strands goes, every round these guys have fought has been great. There’s no reason to think that pattern won’t continue. Regarding the result, Castillo keeps the pressure on as he did in the second fight, but he’ll walk into trouble from a more reserved Corrales. We still don’t know which coin to flip.

February also holds a better late than never affair between two perennial favorites as Shane Mosley collides with Fernando Vargas on the 25th.  This fight could lead to a winning ticket in the Golden Boy sweepstakes for a fall bonanza against Oscar De La Hoya.

Vargas has been in tougher recently, based on comparable strength of opposition stats, but he’s seen little action. What weight they enter the ring at may have a lot to do with the result. If Vargas has to struggle at the scale, Mosley might have the battle in the bag after round nine.

It’s hard to imagine Mosley getting stopped early, but Vargas doesn’t have to hurt him, he just has to knock him down three times. With natural size, he may be able to do just that, but Mosley would have to box uncharacteristically flat.

Unless Mosley decides to heed the crowd, the most likely scenario is that Shane plays it safe, picks a few shots, and stays away enough to capture a comfortable, dull decision. An unbowed Vargas maintains his fan base but not his bettors.

March both comes in and goes out as a lion.

On March 4th Joe Calzaghe welcomes Jeff Lacy to Manchester UK for what may be the biggest blowout of the headlining bunch. Calzaghe gets the chance to prove his considerable home-based reputation once and for all, but if Lacy creams him as we expect, that glossy record will be severely tarnished.

All Calzaghe has to do is make a respectable stand, but that’s no small task against the rising Lacy. A motivated Calzaghe, songs of England ringing in his ears, could pull a big surprise if he can exploit Lacy’s relatively limited technical development, but that’s a longshot indeed.

It looks like Lacy can get by on power alone. He could soon emerge as a pound-for-pound leader. Old Joe’s hometown advantage will last about two left hooks.

March 11th has the Ides of history to beware for at least one old lion, with farewell (we’ll see) fireworks featuring Roy Jones Jr. against Bernard Hopkins. Less than two years ago they were considered untouchable all time greats. Now between them they’ve lost five in a row.

This goodbye fight is contracted at light heavyweight, for what seems like an oldies night. Hopkins is the senior at age 41 to Jones’s 37, but Roy seems more the grandpa figure, last seen hanging on against Antonio Tarver. Youth, as it were here, will prevail.

This bout was signed quickly as each principal, usually sticklers for favorable contract clauses, agreed to parity in a demonstration of businessman first and fighter second. They may both expect easy marks. How much the boys have left by the time they get down to business remains to be seen. The history books will show this as a climactic career bout between Hall of Famers.

At 175 pounds, Hopkins may be in for rude awakening. Jones may have been more thoroughly outfought recently, but he was rumbling with bigger, tougher men than Jermain Taylor or Howard Eastman. Respectable as he is, Taylor still falls short of the level of Tarver, at least for now. The difference is still fifteen pounds less pop.

It will be quite a feat if Hopkins can stay in the fight, even at Jones’s advanced age. Our stars point to Jones winning in overwhelming fashion.

On March 18th, James Toney meets Hasim Rahman in another pairing of seasoned war-horses.

Toney and Rahman already had their introductions, when they brawled in Mexico during a WBC gathering to bestow Rahman’s new belt. Between formalities, Toney got married, which could bring up the old questions about carnal training.

Let’s hope when they meet in the ring, they restore some of the fire missing from the heavyweights in ‘05.  Toney might have an edge in recent form, but Rahman shows fine tuning he previously lacked. The winner might get newly “crowned’ Nicolai Valuev, an easy payday outside Germany.

Rahman could be the heavyweight that finally makes Toney look like a blown up middleweight. But anything less than a top effort will probably lead to embarrassing night for the Rock and give Toney solid claim to being the true heavyweight champ.

This might not be the most artful fight of the new season, but it could well be the most grueling, and the closest. He who’s faced the better big boys gets the nod. Advantage Rahman.

March 25 features Marco Antonio Barrera, probably the strongest overall claimant to 130 pound honors. The likely opponent is said to be always tough Jesus Chavez.

Chavez seemed rejuvenated when he met Leavander Johnson, but Johnson’s tragic death may have taken some of the steam out of thoughtful Chavez, said to have received Johnson’s family blessing to continue in Leavander’s name. That could mean a lot of inspiration. Either way, if he does meet Chavez, who hung tough with one arm against Erik Morales, Barrera won’t get any slack. The Fates say Chavez, whose wife recently served in Iraq, is a live, live underdog.

Another clash to be King of the Hill finds Floyd Mayweather Jr, arguably the game’s finest practitioner, bumping heads with Zab Judah, one of very few boxers who rivals Mayweather in speed, skills, and brashness.

Their hoedown, scheduled for April 8th, is one of the top pound-for-pound pairings in recent years. Judah will need a career best performance to have a chance of victory. That’s not to say he can’t pull it off, but currently Mayweather is in a different galaxy in terms of punching power. Slow-motion replays may be the only way to follow the flying fists once these two whirlwinds unload.

Mayweather should be around a 4-1 favorite. Judah is good enough to make taking the odds an attractive proposition, since that’s probably as good of odds as one is likely to see on Floyd for a while. Mayweather will stop Judah in his tracks.

The first half of next year is set to conclude with the star power of Oscar De La Hoya, probably against noteworthy foil Ricardo Mayorga on May 6. There could be some snags before a contract is finalized, but if it comes off count on Mayorga for promotional sound bite nastiness. One of the questions is whether or not he’ll be able to get under Oscar’s skin, and it might actually be entertaining to see the classy, model perfect De La Hoya show he’s human and freak out against the Nicaraguan maniac.

Mayorga may have burnt his best bridges already. De La Hoya has not only the boxing skill to negate Mayorga’s offense, but enough power to end it early. If Mayorga rushes in and causes a cut, De La Hoya might get ruffled enough to duck into defense and Mayorga could get a decision that goes to the cards after six rounds or so. It will be wild for as long as it lasts.

Pro boxing, like many sports, had its share of problems during 2005, but there were also many positives. Most notably, as usual, was superior and inspiring action inside the strands. Unless there’s a mass freeze-up at the top, early 2006 figures to see decisive interaction among many well-known fighters.

If even fifty per cent of the aforementioned pairings come to fruition, it’s a strong likelihood the upcoming year has at least one very positive half. Arturo Gatti, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Brian Viloria, and Shannon Briggs, to name a few, are also on deck. No matter how you chose to look at or measure mass qualities, there’s still just as much good to be seen.

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