Countdown To Mayweather-Pacquiao: If There’s No Stoppage The Ending Will Be Controversial

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9 years ago

April 25, 2015

Most fans who you talk with emphatically believe there will be a rematch between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao after they fight on May 2nd. And with so many feeling that way, you have to ask what does that tell you?

I believe it strongly conveys many boxing observers and aficionados feel regardless of who wins, the fight is going to go the distance and the outcome will most likely not be conclusive via the decision rendered. This shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone.

If you examine their careers over the last six years or so, it’s almost impossible to deduce that the bout will end by KO/TKO (although I feel the odds of that are greater than most others do). Mayweather, who has never been viewed as a fighter who wins inside the distance, hasn’t scored a clean stoppage since he TKO’d Ricky Hatton in the 10th round back in December of 2007. Yes, he stopped Victor Ortiz in September of 2011, but that was due to him nailing Ortiz with a sucker punch when Victor stupidly and unnecessarily extended his hands to touch gloves with Floyd after a break during the fight.

Pacquiao, who is the perceived puncher in the bout, hasn’t been laying a trail of splattered bodies across the ring either. Manny hasn’t won by stoppage in his last nine bouts going all the way back to November of 2009. So if we go by both fighters’ recent track record, the odds are heavily in favor the outcome of Mayweather-Pacquiao will be decided by the three judges appointed to score the fight by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. And the thought of that should scare both fighters and their fans.

What a stellar resume Nevada boxing judges have compiled over the past few years. Remember how one judge scored the Mayweather-Alvarez fight a draw? It’s almost impossible to justify Alvarez winning a single round of that fight – yet one judge scored six of them in his favor? And that was nine months after two judges scored the first Pacquiao-Bradley fight for Bradley. That was another atrocious decision in which the wrong fighter had his hand raised, and that ultimately set up the rematch in which Pacquiao jogged to a decision victory. With inconsistent Vegas judging in mind…would anyone be surprised if Mayweather or Pacquiao won a decision where the real score should be something like 116-112 or even 117-111, however we end up getting a majority or split decision? This would of course ignite the talk of an immediate rematch that the economics will dictate.

The post-fight narrative will supersede what actually takes place in the ring, if at all possible. And the promoters will try and make the viewer’s question what they saw, and the strange thing is that they’ll be able to do that.

In order for that not to be the case there has to be a clean stoppage by either fighter. If the fight goes to a decision it’s highly probable the ending will be controversial. Is it really plausible that if one of them doesn’t bash the other that the supporters of the losing fighter will not cry their guy was robbed? Of course they’ll say that and the promoters and everyone else will feed into it. And the reason for that is, there’s nearly a billion dollars to be generated if just one simple thing happens….and that is Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao fight a second time. It’s mind boggling that almost one billion dollars will be divvied up between the players involved if they can just take what will be the highest grossing fight in history and convince the public that for it to really mean anything, the two fighters have to meet one more time. That doesn’t seem like such a tough sell does it?

I know that former undisputed heavyweight/cruiserweight champion Evander Holyfield has said a few times that the boxing establishment doesn’t want Floyd Mayweather to retire undefeated. This is a view that is shared by others who follow the sport closely. It’s also a view that I don’t share and actually think the opposite is more in play. Many think for there to be a rematch, Mayweather must lose to Pacquiao by hook or by crook on May 2nd. Once again I disagree with the masses and implicitly believe Mayweather can win the fight and the odds are still great that he and Manny will go at it once more.

Let’s assume the fight goes the distance and Mayweather wins by decision. Say the scores are 116-112, 117-111 and 115-113, but 115-113 is the hardest to justify. You can be assured there will be a large faction of Pacquiao supporters who will highlight the 115-113 score, because in rounds that’s 7-5, and they’ll stress how if that judge changed on one round, he’d have the fight a draw. And if you flip one of the close rounds on the other two cards you end up with scores favoring Mayweather 115-113, 116-112 and 114-114. Suddenly the fight becomes really close and pretty soon the fact that Floyd controlled the fight most of the way will become a distant memory. Of course you’ll also hear how “Manny made the fight. He pushed Mayweather every second and Floyd just ran. If it hadn’t been for Pacquiao, there wouldn’t have even been a fight.” And that will gain momentum.

Floyd will then likely rationalize in his mind, I won and it wasn’t even my toughest fight. And for another 150 plus million dollars or more, I’ll take him to school again. Thus thinking to himself, Pacquiao can’t do anything differently in a rematch but bring more of the same of what didn’t work the first time. But I can be better because after being in the ring with him for 12 rounds, I know what he can and can’t do and I’m the type of fighter who can adjust, and I will.

The way I see it, if the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight goes to a decision, and the odds are it will, regardless of who wins the loser will have many making the case for him that he really won. So without a clean stoppage, in spite of how one-sided the fight may turn out to be, the decision will be seen as controversial and the drumbeat for a rematch will begin. And with nearly another half a billion dollars just waiting to be plucked from the willing public, who is going to object? In fact it seems almost as if a majority of boxing fans are counting on Mayweather and Pacquiao fighting twice.

The only thing that could throw the above scenario off is if Mayweather loses a decision in which he wholeheartedly believes that he won, the way Marvin Hagler felt after losing a split decision to Sugar Ray Leonard. Does Floyd say screw it like Hagler did and walk away from the sport never to been seen or heard from again?

I don’t think Mayweather would respond like Hagler, but the possibility certainly exists.

Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com

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Philadelphia’s K & A Boxing Club plus the return of Carto & Boots

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20 hours ago

May 9, 2024

Luis A. Cortes III

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Boxing with its ever-changing business landscape tests the commitment of its fans like no other sport. It doesn’t help that so many fighters create more drama outside the ring than inside it. This being the case, it’s always refreshing to learn about the people, places, and associations that are working for the betterment of the sport and the communities that they serve.

K & A Boxing Club at 3017 F Street in Philadelphia’s Kensington neighborhood and its head trainer Timmy Sinese (pictured below with one of his students) is an example of one of these refreshing cases. While it is important to note that, yes, the gym is right across the street from McPhearson Square (unofficially known as “Needle Park”) in one of the worst open air drug neighborhoods in the country, what Sinese and the Philadelphia Pugilistic Association are doing for the youth in that area goes beyond the familiar story of a gym being a haven for at-risk boys and an alternative to a life on the street.

This Saturday (May 1), Sinese and company are putting on their first amateur show at Our Lady of Port Richmond (3233 E. Thompson St.). “All the proceeds from this event are going to kids that are talented but lack the resources to be seen. These kids can fight and without the kids there would be no pros,” states Sinese. A Kensington lifer, he would know about that neighborhood and the talent that it harbors.

Sinese is a veteran of the U.S. Navy where he spent four years learning how to box. Upon his return to the city, he spent years learning how to train fighters at famed gyms like Harrowgate and Rock Ministries. (Harrowgate was the childhood home gym of heavyweight Joey Dawejko and Danny Garcia.) As for his own boxing career, that was cut short when he was stabbed multiple times during a run-in with a motorcycle gang.

After the pandemic he was approached by a friend, John Goodwin, about becoming the head trainer at a new gym that Goodwin was planning on opening. Once the old after-hours club was transformed into the gym bearing the name K & A (an iconic local abbreviation for the Kensington and Allegheny intersection), Sinese went to work on transforming lives. Except one thing has gotten in the way at times.

“It’s hard to water the seeds that we have planted at the gym with the youth,” says Sinise. “We’re trying to help build better citizens at the end of the day. It’s a shame cause we’ve seen friendships and support systems being forged organically between these kids. It’s tough when they can’t afford to see their aspirations of a better life through boxing come true cause of not having money to jump-start [the process]. That’s why Saturday is important.”

One look at the USA Amateur Boxing rankings highlights his point. For the first time in generations, there are hardly any fighters ranked in the top ten of any weight class, both male and female, from the Philadelphia region.

“It’s absolutely a shame that this great fighting city isn’t represented on all levels of the sport anymore, but ultimately, we’re about building better and stronger youth for our community. If these kids can deal with the ring, they can deal with life.”

$35 and $50 tickets will be available at the door for Saturday’s show with the opening bell scheduled for 1:00 PM.

King’s Promotions returns this Friday night at Live Casino in South Philadelphia. Bantamweight contender and the always popular Christian Carto (21-1, 14 KO’s) fights for the second time this year in the main event of a seven-fight card. He takes on the durable Jesus Martinez (35-20-1, 16 KOs) in an eight-round bout. Carto, who is trained by Bozy Ennis, looks to stay sharp by staying active as he looks to get into top form before challenging for a world title.

Also on the card is light heavyweight Atif Oberlton. A former amateur standout and Philly native, Oberlton (9-0, 7 KOs) meets Mexico’s Juan Francisco Lopez (8-1, 4 KOs). As I’ve stated before, King’s Promotions always puts on entertaining shows with well-matched fights and this card looks to be no different. Tickets are available through Axs.com and at the door.

Matchroom sent out a press release announcing that Jaron “Boots” Ennis will make his return to the ring at the Wells Fargo Center (home to the Sixers and Flyers) on July 13. Ennis (31-0, 28 KOs) will defend his IBF welterweight title against his mandatory challenger Cody Crowley (22-0, 9 KOs) in a bout geared towards accomplishing two things: shaking off any ring rust that might have accumulated after a 12-month layoff while providing proof that Ennis can sell tickets, which will benefit both Matchroom and Ennis in future negotiations.

Ennis signed a multi-fight promotional deal with Matchroom on April 10. Eddie Hearn isn’t wasting any time getting his new young star back into the limelight.

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Lipinets Upends Davies in a Wednesday Night Firefight in Florida

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1 day ago

May 8, 2024

Arne K. Lang

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The latest installment of the ProBox Wednesday Night Fights played out tonight at its permanent home in the Tampa suburb of Plant City. The main event, contested at a catchweight of 142 pounds, was an international affair pitting Sergey Lipinets, an LA-based Kazkh, briefly the IBF 140-pound world title-holder, against Liverpool, England’s Robbie Davies Jr, a former British, European, and Commonwealth champion who was making his U.S. debut.

The fight went the full “10” and Lipinets, who scored three knockdowns, won by a wide margin (98-89, 96-91, 95-92), but this was yet a fan-friendly fight between two aging warriors who left nothing in the ring.

Lipinets (pictured on the right) was controlling the fight before he was wobbled in round three. Davies hurt him again in the next frame, but Lipinets wasn’t deterred from pressing the action and quickly regained control of the fight. In round five, he knocked the Englishman to the canvas with a succession of right hands, one of which appeared to break Davies’ nose.

In round eight, he put Davies on the canvas twice, the first with a left to the liver and the second with an overhand right. But remarkably, the teak-tough Davies, who appeared to be just about finished, rocked Lipinets before the round was over.

Davies, who declined to 24-4, showed no signs of the broken ankle that he suffered against Irish southpaw Darragh Foley 14 months ago. However, at age 34, this may have been his farewell fight. Lipinets, aged 35 or 37 depending on one’s source, ate punches that he would not have eaten in his younger days. Although he improved his ledger to 18-3-1 (13), he too ought to consider hanging up his gloves.

Other Bouts

In an entertaining 8-round heavyweight bout, Fernely Felix Jr (8-0, 6 KOs) had too much class for Cesar Navarro (11-2), a rugged Mexican bodybuilder who had been campaigning in Phoenix. Feliz Jr, a Dominican born and raised in Connecticut, landed the crisper punches and was returned the winner by scores of 78-74 and 79-73 twice.

Feliz Jr, whose future may be at cruiserweight, comes from a boxing family. His father fought the likes of John Ruiz and Oleg Maskaev before leaving the sport with a record of 23-9. His younger brother Ali Feliz recently signed a multi-fight deal with Top Rank. Junior’s next fight has already been booked. He fights TBA next month in Buenos Aires.

Tsendbaatar Erdenebat, a 27-year-old Mongolian southpaw and two-time Olympian, scored a third-round stoppage of Puerto Rico’s Alberto Mercado in a lightweight match slated for “8.” The bout was stopped at the 2:39 mark by the ring physician after Mercado suffered a bad cut on his left eyelid.

Erdenebat (10-0, 5 KOs) dominated the fight for as long as it lasted. It was the sixth loss in the last eight starts for Mercado (17-7-1), a 15-year pro who has routinely been matched tough.

The TV opener was a 6-round battle of 19-year-old lightweights. Robert Meriwether III, a Louisville native who trains at the Mayweather Boxing Club in Las Vegas, improved to 6-0 (2) at the expense of Mexico’s Victor Manuel Lopez (5-1). Meriwether gave up about six inches in height, but won every round against his defensive-oriented opponent.

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TSS News Wire: Jarmall Charlo Defrocked; Ryan Garcia Partially Vindicated

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2 days ago

May 8, 2024

Arne K. Lang

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Jermall Charlo is in hot water again and this time it has cost him his middleweight title.

In a story first reported by TMZ Sports, Charlo, 33 was arrested shortly after 6 pm on Monday, May 6, in Pearland, Texas, after crashing his Lamborghini into another vehicle. After a verbal altercation with the driver of the other car, Charlo left the scene, ignoring police sirens to pull over, until he was boxed in at a red light. Charlo was arrested, failed a sobriety test at the police station, and was charged with three misdemeanors including Driving While Intoxicated (DWI).

This wasn’t the first time that Charlo was in trouble with the law.

In August of 2021, he was arrested on the allegation that he stole from a waitress (he absconded with her tips) following a 2 am dispute at a private martini bar and social club in San Antonio. The case was dismissed on grounds of insufficient evidence. In February of 2022, he was arrested for the alleged assault of a family member during a family gathering the previous September in Fort Bend County, Texas.

A two-weight world title-holder with an undefeated record (33-0, 24 KOs), Charlo last defended his belt in on June 19, 2021, at the Toyota Center in Houston, winning a unanimous decision over Juan Macias Montiel. His last outing came in November of his last year in Las Vegas where he won a 10-round decision over Jose Benavidez Jr, the older brother of David Benavidez. For that match, his first ring appearance in 29 months, he carried 166 ½ pounds.

In February of this year, it was announced that Charlo would fight Canelo Alvarez on Cinco de Mayo weekend, but the promoter, PBC, had second thoughts and the assignment went to Jaime Munguia. The presumption was that a second straight fight between Canelo and a Charlo would be a tough sell after the lackluster performance of Jermall’s twin brother Jermell Charlo vs. Canelo in September of 2023.

Jermell has also been in trouble with the law. This past December, he was accused of assaulting a family member. The alleged victim wasn’t identified, but after Jermell was released on bond, his wife, the former Chayne Westwood, filed for a restraining order. Jermell, reports Jake Donovan, has a May 20 court appearance.

Upon learning of Jermall’s latest arrest, the WBC took swift action, stripping him of his title.

“The WBC Board of Governors has decided to confirm Carlos Adames as the WBC reigning middleweight champion…The WBC will closely work with PBC in securing the best course of action to attend to Jermall’s needs at this moment in time. After a thorough evaluation of the situation and understanding of the facts and times the WBC may rank Jermall at Super Middle weight,” said the organization in a press release.

A 30-year-old Dominican with a 23-1 (18 KOs) record, Adames last fought in June of last year, scoring a ninth-round stoppage of Julian Williams in a bout framed as a WBC interim world middleweight title fight.

Ryan Garcia

It’s old news that Ryan Garcia tested positive for the banned steroid Ostarine prior to his stunning upset of Devin Haney in Brooklyn on April 20. Moreover, there was evidence of another banned substance, 19-Norandrosterone, but the trace of it in his urine specimen was so small that the testing agency, VADA, needed more evidence to ascertain whether it should be included in its report.

Yesterday (May 7) VADA clarified that the steroid was not present in a second test. As Dan Rafael noted, some banned substances have a threshold whereas others, such as Ostarine, do not, which means that any amount, no matter how minute, is grounds for some sort of punishment.

Talking with ESPN.com, Garcia’s attorney Darin Chavez said the Ostarine was “in the billionth of a gram range that provided Ryan Garcia with no performance enhancing benefit whatsoever.” Chavez reported that the “B” sample, at Garcia’s request, would be opened and analyzed on May 22 with Garcia in attendance. The “B” sample, notes ESPN boxing writer Mike Coppinger, is a safeguard to ensure there was no lab contamination or other error involved in the test that produced the original finding.

Garcia has subsequently claimed that he drank alcohol and smoked marijuana in the days leading up to and including the very day of the fight. “I got in there high as f*** and I beat his ass,” he told podcaster Bob Menery.

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