Mayweather-Pacquiao Not Likely, Fewer Care

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12 years ago

December 8, 2012

Ron Borges

Manny was 147, Marquez 143 at the Friday weigh-in. (Chris Farina-Top Rank)

LAS VEGAS – Manny Pacquiao sat on a sofa surrounded by a gaggle of sportswriters earlier this week and for perhaps the longest period of time in years The Name did not come up.

Pacquiao talked at length about the long and winding road he has walked with Juan Manuel Marquez, one that will lead them both into the ring at the MGM Grand Garden Arena Saturday night for the fourth time with the differences between them yet to be convincingly ironed out.

He talked of a religious rebirth, of past transgressions, of Marquez’ possible use of performance enhancing drugs and the rumors swirling around them both in that regard, of the need for Marquez to change the counter punching style that has so confounded Pacquiao and the hope that this time the bout will end in a knockout, not another disputed decision.

Through all of this The Name never came up. Finally, Associated Press columnist Tim Dahlberg could take it no longer. He uttered it.

“Is this the longest you’ve gone (at a press briefing) without the name Floyd Mayweather coming up?’’ he asked.

Pacquiao laughed, nodding his head in affirmation. It wasn’t a nervous laugh but it should have been because underneath the question was a disturbing fact: nobody really cares any more if the two of them fight or not.

If eventually they do, the fight will still do big business. It may become the biggest pay-per-view sale in boxing history and would pack the house in Las Vegas or, if the two fighters are really smart, someplace like Cowboys Stadium in Texas where there are many more seats than on The Strip and no state income tax or unions to run up costs.

But if it does happen, which remains a long shot, it will also be like stale bread: something you’ll eat if you’re starving but the taste for it will be gone.

“That’s not going to happen,” growled Pacquiao’s ever truculent promoter, Bob Arum, this week, when asked about the possibility of the two finally squaring off in what was once seen as a future of boxing type of fight.

“Al Haymon (Mayweather’s manager) is just dangling Mayweather,” meaning Haymon is using Mayweather’s celebrity to drive business in the way Arum and Don King often did in the past with their top attractions.

In the midst of Pacquiao-Marquez IV week, Mayweather’s long-time advisor and confidante, Leonard Ellerbee, let it be known that the long absent Mayweather will return to the ring May 4, 2013, Cinco de Mayo weekend. He added that for the first time in several years Mayweather intends to box twice in 2013, leaving an unexpressed hint that the second fight could possibly be a September showdown with the man everyone once wanted to see him fight so badly but all that pronouncement really did was guarantee for fight fans at least one and possibly two weekends next year when it will be forced to choose between a Mayweather fight and one promoted by Arum because both Arum and Golden Boy Promotions, who still represent Mayweather in such matters for a fee, have contractual obligations to advertisers to stage shows on the two biggest Mexican holiday weekends of the year.

This has created conflict in the past, including earlier this year when the two sides resorted to schoolyard name calling and petulant arguments over who had what date first and who reserved what arena before the other and which one told cable operators they wanted to go on a certain date.

What this led to is what it has led to in the past: the fans got screwed. Welcome to big-time sports in the 21st Century.

Mayweather’s return to boxing will be welcomed to be sure because any event he is involved with becomes a big one. He has not fought since last May, forgoing a second fight after serving a brief jail sentence on domestic violence changes following that fight, instead spending his public time fighting with his former BBF, 50 Cent.

Fifty and he were supposed to partner in a new promotional company, an expansion of what both once called their family-like relationship. Well, it ended up being the Family Feud, the two splitting after Mayweather came out of jail.

Now Curtis Jackson (aka 50 Cent) not only has his own promotional company headlined by power punching Cuban exile Yuriokis Gamboa but a partnership with Arum, whom Mayweather hates with the kind of rage reserved normally only for someone who kills your dog or hurts your kids.

After bout of Twitter warfare between them over Mayweather’s reluctance to invest any of his own money in this joint promotional venture, they split. Fifty, who made his mark as a rapper but made his money out of an investment stake he held in Vitaminwater that was sold to Coca-Cola in 2007 for a reported number in the billions, not the millions, claims he still “loves him like a brother.’’
Perhaps so but sometimes brothers fight harder than others even when the possibility exists that had Mayweather relented and agreed to fight Pacquiao in Dubai a year ago, there might have been a $180 million pot to split.

Of course, it would have involved the sticky fingers of Arum, which Mayweather simply could not abide and so boxing stumbles along without its version of the Super Bowl.

As for Mayweather, according to Fifty: “He’s in the cycle that a lot of big fighters go through: get the money, spend the money and then fight again for some more money.”

Yet he and Pacquiao are in another cycle familiar to boxers, one that has thus far gone beneath the radar. To put it simply, both are slipping. At 36 and boxing infrequently, Mayweather has become a more flat-footed, less elusive target while Pacquiao hasn’t knocked anyone out since 2009.

Although he clearly beat Tim Bradley in his last outing even though the decision went the other way, Pacquiao did not do the kind of damage he used to and the fight before that he got a win he didn’t deserve over Marquez, who controlled the fight all night.

As for Mayweather, all one has to do is look back at his last performance. It was a struggle for him like never before to defeat Miguel Cotto. One fight later, Cotto was slapped silly by a kid named Austin Trout. Why didn’t Mayweather do that? Because he no longer can.

What this means is if Pacquiao-Mayweather ever does happen, which grows more unlikely by the day, it will be a fight between two shadows of what each once was. That might actually make it a more competitive and enjoyable match but it won’t reflect the best of either of them.

What seemed telling in all this was Mayweather’s ex-best bud claiming the theory that Mayweather would not face Pacquiao because he feared a loss on his record had some truth behind them.

“It’s all confidence when it comes to Floyd and his confidence wouldn’t be there,” said Fifty. “He kind of hand picks who he fights instead of taking the tough fights.”

That isn’t what he was saying when they were sharing private jets and gambling debts but so it goes in boxing. Friends come and friends go. So does the money, the absence of the latter usually being directly related to the disappearance of the former.

Regardless of that, Floyd Mayweather is apparently back in boxing on 2013 but not likely in a shared space with Manny Pacquiao. What he doesn’t know yet and Pacquiao is only beginning to realize this week is that not many people really care that much anymore if they ever do.

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Arne’s Almanac: The Good, the Bad, and the (Mostly) Ugly; a Weekend Boxing Recap and More

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19 hours ago

May 6, 2025

Arne K. Lang

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Arne’s Almanac: The Good, the Bad, and the (Mostly) Ugly; a Weekend Boxing Recap and More

It’s old news now, but on back-to-back nights on the first weekend of May, there were three fights that finished in the top six snoozefests ever as measured by punch activity. That’s according to CompuBox which has been around for 40 years.

In Times Square, the boxing match between Devin Haney and Jose Carlos Ramirez had the fifth-fewest number of punches thrown, but the main event, Ryan Garcia vs. Rolly Romero, was even more of a snoozefest, landing in third place on this ignoble list.

Those standings would be revised the next night – knocked down a peg when Canelo Alvarez and William Scull combined to throw a historically low 445 punches in their match in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 152 by the victorious Canelo who at least pressed the action, unlike Scull (pictured) whose effort reminded this reporter of “Cat on a Hot Tin Roof” – no, not the movie starring Paul Newman, just the title.

CompuBox numbers, it says here, are best understood as approximations, but no amount of rejiggering can alter the fact that these three fights were stinkers. Making matters worse, these were pay-per-views. If one had bundled the two events, rather than buying each separately, one would have been out $90 bucks.

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Thankfully, the Sunday card on ESPN from Las Vegas was redemptive. It was just what the sport needed at this moment – entertaining fights to expunge some of the bad odor. In the main go, Naoya Inoue showed why he trails only Shohei Ohtani as the most revered athlete in Japan.

Throughout history, the baby-faced assassin has been a boxing promoter’s dream. It’s no coincidence that down through the ages the most common nickname for a fighter – and by an overwhelming margin — is “Kid.”

And that partly explains Naoya Inoue’s charisma. The guy is 32 years old, but here in America he could pass for 17.

Joey Archer

Joey Archer, who passed away last week at age 87 in Rensselaer, New York, was one of the last links to an era of boxing identified with the nationally televised Friday Night Fights at Madison Square Garden.

Joey Archer

Archer made his debut as an MSG headliner on Feb. 4, 1961, and had 12 more fights at the iconic mid-Manhattan sock palace over the next six years. The final two were world title fights with defending middleweight champion Emile Griffith.

Archer etched his name in the history books in November of 1965 in Pittsburgh where he won a comfortable 10-round decision over Sugar Ray Robinson, sending the greatest fighter of all time into retirement. (At age 45, Robinson was then far past his peak.)

Born and raised in the Bronx, Joey Archer was a cutie; a clever counter-puncher recognized for his defense and ultimately for his granite chin. His style was embedded in his DNA and reinforced by his mentors.

Early in his career, Archer was domiciled in Houston where he was handled by veteran trainer Bill Gore who was then working with world lightweight champion Joe Brown. Gore would ride into the Hall of Fame on the coattails of his most famous fighter, “Will-o’-the Wisp” Willie Pep. If Joey Archer had any thoughts of becoming a banger, Bill Gore would have disabused him of that notion.

In all honesty, Archer’s style would have been box office poison if he had been black. It helped immensely that he was a native New Yorker of Irish stock, albeit the Irish angle didn’t have as much pull as it had several decades earlier. But that observation may not be fair to Archer who was bypassed twice for world title fights after upsetting Hurricane Carter and Dick Tiger.

When he finally caught up with Emile Griffith, the former hat maker wasn’t quite the fighter he had been a few years earlier but Griffith, a two-time Fighter of the Year by The Ring magazine and the BWAA and a future first ballot Hall of Famer, was still a hard nut to crack.

Archer went 30 rounds with Griffith, losing two relatively tight decisions and then, although not quite 30 years old, called it quits. He finished 45-4 with 8 KOs and was reportedly never knocked down, yet alone stopped, while answering the bell for 365 rounds. In retirement, he ran two popular taverns with his older brother Jimmy Archer, a former boxer who was Joey’s trainer and manager late in Joey’s career.

May he rest in peace.

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Bombs Away in Las Vegas where Inoue and Espinoza Scored Smashing Triumphs

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3 days ago

May 4, 2025

David A. Avila

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Japan’s Naoya “Monster” Inoue banged it out with Mexico’s Ramon Cardenas, survived an early knockdown and pounded out a stoppage win to retain the undisputed super bantamweight world championship on Sunday.

Japan and Mexico delivered for boxing fans again after American stars failed in back-to-back days.

“By watching tonight’s fight, everyone is well aware that I like to brawl,” Inoue said.

Inoue (30-0, 27 KOs), and Cardenas (26-2, 14 KOs) and his wicked left hook, showed the world and 8,474 fans at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas that prizefighting is about punching, not running.

After massive exposure for three days of fights that began in New York City, then moved to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and then to Nevada, it was the casino capital of the world that delivered what most boxing fans appreciate- pure unadulterated action fights.

Monster Inoue immediately went to work as soon as the opening bell rang with a consistent attack on Cardenas, who very few people knew anything about.

One thing promised by Cardenas’ trainer Joel Diaz was that his fighter “can crack.”

Cardenas proved his trainer’s words truthful when he caught Inoue after a short violent exchange with a short left hook and down went the Japanese champion on his back. The crowd was shocked to its toes.

“I was very surprised,” said Inoue about getting dropped. ““In the first round, I felt I had good distance. It got loose in the second round. From then on, I made sure to not take that punch again.”

Inoue had no trouble getting up, but he did have trouble avoiding some of Cardenas massive blows delivered with evil intentions. Though Inoue did not go down again, a look of total astonishment blanketed his face.

A real fight was happening.

Cardenas, who resembles actor Andy Garcia, was never overly aggressive but kept that left hook of his cocked and ready to launch whenever he saw the moment. There were many moments against the hyper-aggressive Inoue.

Both fighters pack power and both looked to find the right moment. But after Inoue was knocked down by the left hook counter, he discovered a way to eliminate that weapon from Cardenas. Still, the Texas-based fighter had a strong right too.

In the sixth round Inoue opened up with one of his lightning combinations responsible for 10 consecutive knockout wins. Cardenas backed against the ropes and Inoue blasted away with blow after blow. Then suddenly, Cardenas turned Inoue around and had him on the ropes as the Mexican fighter unloaded nasty combinations to the body and head. Fans roared their approval.

“I dreamed about fighting in front of thousands of people in Las Vegas,” said Cardenas. “So, I came to give everything.”

Inoue looked a little surprised and had a slight Mona Lisa grin across his face. In the seventh round, the Japanese four-division world champion seemed ready to attack again full force and launched into the round guns blazing. Cardenas tried to catch Inoue again with counter left hooks but Inoue’s combos rained like deadly hail. Four consecutive rights by Inoue blasted Cardenas almost through the ropes. The referee Tom Taylor ruled it a knockdown. Cardenas beat the count and survived the round.

In the eighth round Inoue looked eager to attack and at the bell launched across the ring and unloaded more blows on Cardenas. A barrage of 14 unanswered blows forced the referee to stop the fight at 45 seconds of round eight for a technical knockout win.

“I knew he was tough,” said Inoue. “Boxing is not that easy.”

Espinoza Wins

WBO featherweight titlist Rafael Espinosa (27-0, 23 KOs) uppercut his way to a knockout win over Edward Vazquez (17-3, 4 KOs) in the seventh round.

“I wanted to fight a game fighter to show what I am capable,” said Espinoza.

Espinosa used the leverage of his six-foot, one-inch height to slice uppercuts under the guard of Vazquez. And when the tall Mexican from Guadalajara targeted the body, it was then that the Texas fighter began to wilt. But he never surrendered.

Though he connected against Espinoza in every round, he was not able to slow down the taller fighter and that allowed the Mexican fighter to unleash a 10-punch barrage including four consecutive uppercuts. The referee stopped the fight at 1:47 of the seventh round.

It was Espinoza’s third title defense.

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Undercard Results and Recaps from the Inoue-Cardenas Show in Las Vegas

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3 days ago

May 4, 2025

Arne K. Lang

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The curtain was drawn on a busy boxing weekend tonight at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas where the featured attraction was Japanese superstar Naoya Inoue appearing in his twenty-fifth world title fight.

The top two fights (Inoue vs. Roman Cardenas for the unified 122-pound crown and Rafael Espinoza vs. Edward Vazquez for the WBO world featherweight diadem) aired on the main ESPN platform with the preliminaries streaming on ESPN+.

The finale of the preliminaries was a 10-rounder between welterweights Rohan Polanco and Fabian Maidana. A 2020/21 Olympian for the Dominican Republic, Polanco was a solid favorite and showed why by pitching a shutout, punctuating his triumph by knocking Maidana to his knees late in the final round with a hard punch to the pit of the stomach.

Polanco improved to 16-0 (10). Argentina’s Maidana, the younger brother of former world title-holder Marcos Maidana, fell to 24-4 while maintaining his distinction of never being stopped.

Emiliano Vargas, a rising force in the 140-pound division with the potential to become a crossover star, advanced to 14-0 (12 KOs) with a second-round stoppage Juan Leon. Vargas, who turned 21 last month, is the son of former U.S. Olympian Fernando Vargas who had big money fights with the likes of Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya. Emiliano knocked Leon down hard twice in round two – both the result of right-left combinations — before Robert Hoyle waived it off.

A 28-year-old Spaniard, Leon was 11-2-1 heading in.

In his U.S. debut, 29-year-old Japanese southpaw Mikito Nakano (13-0, 12 KOs) turned in an Inoue-like performance with a fourth-round stoppage of Puerto Rico’s Pedro Medina. Nakano, a featherweight, had Medina on the canvas five times before referee Harvey Dock waived it off at the 1:58 mark of round four. The shell-shocked Medina (16-2) came into the contest riding a 15-fight winning streak.

Lynwood, California junior middleweight Art Barrera Jr, a 19-year-old protégé of Robert Garcia, scored a sixth-round stoppage of Chicago’s Juan Carlos Guerra. There were no knockdowns, but the bout had turned sharply in Barrera’s favor when referee Thomas Taylor intervened. The official time was 1:15 of round six.

Barrera improved to 9-0 (7 KOs). The spunky but outclassed Guerra, who upset Nico Ali Walsh in his previous outing, declined to 6-2-1.

In the lid-lifter, a 10-round featherweight affair, Muskegon Michigan’s Ra’eese Aleem improved to 22-1 (12) with a unanimous decision over LA’s hard-trying Rudy Garcia (13-2-1). The judges had it 99-01, 98-92, and 97-93.

Aleem, 34, was making his second start since June of 2023 when he lost a split decision in Australia to Sam Goodman with a date with Naoya Inoue hanging in the balance.

Check back shortly for David Avila’s recaps of the two world title fights.

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