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Countdown To Mayweather-Pacquiao: What A Loss Would Mean For Mayweather
In professional sports legends are created and destroyed in a matter of seconds, and professional boxing is no different. Think of how drastically different the NFL’s Buffalo Bills would be viewed today had place kicker Scott Norwood hit a 47 yard field goal (that missed by less than a yard to the right) at the end of Super Bowl XXV versus the New York Giants? Today they’d be remembered as Super Bowl champions and Bill Parcells wouldn’t be considered quite the legend he is.
Had “Smokin” Joe Frazier lost a unanimous decision to Muhammad Ali in The “Fight Of The Century” instead of winning it, today Joe would be an asterisk in heavyweight history and viewed by many as the caretaker of Ali’s title while he was exiled for over three years.
What if George Foreman knocked Ali out in the eighth round of the “Rumble In The Jungle” instead of the opposite? Most likely George, not Ali, would be considered the greatest heavyweight of all-time. Forty plus years later Frazier is remembered for winning the biggest and most celebrated boxing match in history, and Ali wasn’t thought of as being the greatest until after he beat Foreman.
Legacies among great fighters can often ride on the outcome of one particular fight, depending on the fighter. When Floyd Mayweather 47-0 (26) takes on Manny Pacquiao 57-5-2 (38) this weekend, I can’t think of a single fighter who entered such a big fight with so little to gain and so much to lose regarding his all-time historical stature. Love him or loathe him, there’s just no getting around the fact that Mayweather is thought of as being a fighter who chose his opponents too judiciously throughout his career and especially during his tenure fighting as a welterweight. Denying that certifies you as a lifetime member of the flat-earth society. If you think about it, it’s really difficult coming up with Floyd’s signature win after 19 years as a professional fighter.
Mayweather fought Oscar De La Hoya when he was an empty package and 2-2 in his last four bouts heading into their fight. Shane Mosley, Bernard Hopkins and Manny Pacquiao all beat Oscar far more conclusively than the split decision verdict Floyd edged him out by. Juan Manuel Marquez was no doubt a great fighter but not as welterweight and Floyd was two divisions bigger than him when they fought. When Mayweather finally fought Shane Mosley in 2010, it was seven years too late. Floyd controlled the fight against the almost 39 year old Mosley, who nearly put him to sleep with one right hand in the second round. I doubt anyone would argue that Mayweather fought a vintage Mosley. Floyd’s overwhelming victory against Miguel Cotto is legit and probably the closest he has to being a signature win. But let us not forget Pacquiao obliterated Miguel three years prior, and after fighting Mayweather, Cotto was defeated even more decidedly seven months later in his next bout versus Austin Trout.
And then there’s Antonio Margarito and Paul Williams, who Mayweather purposely avoided by fighting undefeated IBF junior welterweight title holder Ricky Hatton and then retiring…. Only to come back 21 months later to fight Juan Manuel Marquez.
Most boxing pundits and fans conveniently forget how Margarito was a physical beast who had the style, chin and strength to suffocate Mayweather…and Williams had the reach, style, speed, boxing ability and power to beat Floyd fighting any style he chose. Think of how much stronger Mayweather’s 47-0 resume would be if you omitted Hatton and Marquez and replaced them with Williams and Margarito?!
Floyd Mayweather turned pro in 1996 and it took him 11 years to partake in a fight that boxing fans wanted to see, and that was against the much eroded Oscar De La Hoya, who was the A-side of the bout. And it certainly wasn’t Floyd’s finest hour. Even his father Floyd Sr. said that he felt his son lost. Since 2007 there’s been an angle tilting the outcome in Mayweather’s favor in every fight. Ricky Hatton, Marquez and Robert Guerrero were too small. De La Hoya and Mosley were fighting on their last legs, to put it nicely. Victor Ortiz and Marcos Maidana are nothing close to being world beaters; Canelo Alvarez was too green and inexperienced fighting at the highest level in professional boxing and still hasn’t yet proven he’s all that special. That leaves Cotto as being Mayweather’s most noteworthy win, and it’s a good one, but it’s still only one.
On May 2nd Mayweather will fight Manny Pacquiao in what will be the highest grossing fight in boxing history, not to be wrongly confused with being the biggest fight in boxing history. Pacquiao turned pro in 1995 as a flyweight. He’s lost twice in his last five bouts and in one of them he was knocked out face first on the canvas for well over a minute. In his last three bouts he’s defeated Timothy Bradley (after losing to him) Brandon Rios and Chris Algieri, all of whom went the distance with him.
However, because Mayweather is undefeated and this being by far the highest profile bout of his career, this is the fight he’ll be remembered by. That’s one of the problems he’s confronted with due to his lack of signature opponents. If he retired before fighting Pacquiao, he’d be remembered as a terrific defensive fighter who over-managed his career and avoided fighting the sternest opposition when it truly meant something to beat them. And as much as his fans want to deny it, that also pertains to the upcoming bout with Pacquiao to a large degree. Beating Manny after he lost to Bradley and Marquez hardly builds his case as “TBE.” If that were so, why aren’t Erik Morales and Juan Manuel Marquez considered “TBE” since they will have defeated Pacquiao when he was younger and greater than when he fought Mayweather?
If you’re “Smokin” Joe Frazier and the first to clip the wings of the undefeated “butterfly” Muhammad Ali, you’re special. If you’re George Foreman and the first to put out the undefeated Smoke, you’re special. If you’re Muhammad Ali at age 32 and the first to beat the big bad undefeated monster named Foreman 40- (37) when he’s 25, you’re special. If you’re Roberto Duran, and the first to beat Sugar Ray Leonard at his optimal weight when he was undefeated and in his prime, you’re special. If you’re Sugar Ray Leonard and the first to beat undefeated Thomas Hearns 32-0 (30), you’re special. However, if you’re Floyd Mayweather and you beat Manny Pacquiao on May 2nd 2015, you will become one of six to have turned the trick. In other words Rustico Torrecampo, Megdeon Singsurat, Erik Morales, Timothy Bradley and Juan Manuel Marquez already have defeated Pacquiao. For Mayweather, beating Pacquiao at this stage, if you’re bigger and less shopworn than he is, doesn’t make you so special.
Of course a win over Pacquiao is a feather in Mayweather’s cap, but it shouldn’t catapult him up the all-time great list. Beating a fighter he should’ve beaten who is smaller than he is and has already lost five times before wouldn’t propel any other fighter to legendary status, and it shouldn’t Mayweather. But losing to Pacquiao, if he does, is the single most thing Floyd Mayweather will be remembered for. The 47 victories before that will not shield a loss in his only true career defining fight. What will stand the test of time is – the fact that the first time Mayweather was confronted by a fighter who was thought to be a legitimate threat to his perfect record, he lost.
Much of Mayweather’s ring legacy is riding on the outcome against Pacquiao. If he wins, as he is favored to do, he continues to tread water among some of the all-time greats because he benefits from so many writers and fans not fully understanding how to interpret the record of great fighters. If he loses, he’ll lose much of the cachet he’s built up throughout his career for good, so much so that victory in a rematch will not redeem him. Because he shouldn’t have to fight Pacquiao twice to beat him once….Mayweather should beat Pacquiao 7-days a week, 52 weeks a year, every year.
Floyd Mayweather must beat Manny Pacquiao this weekend because if he went ahead and retired without ever fighting him, that’s all anyone would talk about for years down the road whenever his name was mentioned. Now that he’s fighting Pacquiao he must win because if he loses, after all that he’s accomplished, that is the single most thing he would be remembered for. And to be considered the best fighter of his era, he cannot be 0-1 in the only signature fight of his career versus his only true rival.
Photo Credit : Chris Farina – Top Rank
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Fury-Usyk Reignited: Can the Gypsy King Avenge his Lone Defeat?
In professional boxing, the heavyweight division, going back to the days of John L. Sullivan, is the straw that stirs the drink. By this measure, the fight on May 18 of this year at Kingdom Arena in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, was the biggest prizefight in decades. The winner would emerge as the first undisputed heavyweight champion since 1999 when Lennox Lewis out-pointed Evander Holyfield in their second meeting.
The match did not disappoint. It had several twists and turns.
Usyk did well in the early rounds, but the Gypsy King rattled Usyk with a harsh right hand in the fifth stanza and won rounds five through seven on all three cards. In the ninth, the match turned sharply in favor of the Ukrainian. Fury was saved by the bell after taking a barrage of unanswered punches, the last of which dictated a standing 8-count from referee Mark Nelson. But Fury weathered the storm and with his amazing powers of recuperation had a shade the best of it in the final stanza.
The decision was split: 115-112 and 114-113 for Usyk who became a unified champion in a second weight class; 114-113 for Fury.
That brings us to tomorrow (Saturday, Dec. 21) where Usyk and Fury will renew acquaintances in the same ring where they had their May 18 showdown.
The first fight was a near “pick-‘em” affair with Fury closing a very short favorite at most of the major bookmaking establishments. The Gypsy King would have been a somewhat higher favorite if not for the fact that he was coming off a poor showing against MMA star Francis Ngannou and had a worrisome propensity for getting cut. (A cut above Fury’s right eye in sparring pushed back the fight from its original Feb. 11 date.)
Tomorrow’s sequel, bearing the tagline “Reignited,” finds Usyk a consensus 7/5 favorite although those odds could shorten by post time. (There was no discernible activity after today’s weigh-in where Fury, fully clothed, topped the scales at 281, an increase of 19 pounds over their first meeting.)
Given the politics of boxing, anything “undisputed” is fragile. In June, Usyk abandoned his IBF belt and the organization anointed Daniel Dubois their heavyweight champion based upon Dubois’s eighth-round stoppage of Filip Hrgovic in a bout billed for the IBF interim title. The malodorous WBA, a festering boil on the backside of boxing, now recognizes 43-year-old Kubrat Pulev as its “regular” heavyweight champion.
Another difference between tomorrow’s fight card and the first installment is that the May 18 affair had a much stronger undercard. Two strong pairings were the rematch between cruiserweights Jai Opetaia and Maris Briedis (Opetaia UD 12) and the heavyweight contest between unbeatens Agit Kabayal and Frank Sanchez (Kabayel KO 7).
Tomorrow’s semi-wind-up between Serhii Bohachuk and Ismail Madrimov lost luster when Madrimov came down with bronchitis and had to withdraw. The featherweight contest between Peter McGrail and Dennis McCann fell out when McCann’s VADA test returned an adverse finding. Bohachuk and McGrail remain on the card but against late-sub opponents in matches that are less intriguing.
The focal points of tomorrow’s undercard are the bouts involving undefeated British heavyweights Moses Itauma (10-0, 8 KOs) and Johnny Fisher (12-0, 11 KOs). Both are heavy favorites over their respective opponents but bear watching because they represent the next generation of heavyweight standouts. Fury and Usyk are getting long in the tooth. The Gypsy King is 36; Usyk turns 38 next month.
Bob Arum once said that nobody purchases a pay-per-view for the undercard and, years from now, no one will remember which sanctioning bodies had their fingers in the pie. So, Fury-Usyk II remains a very big deal, although a wee bit less compelling than their first go-around.
Will Tyson Fury avenge his lone defeat? Turki Alalshikh, the Chairman of Saudi Arabia’s General Entertainment Authority and the unofficial czar of “major league” boxing, certainly hopes so. His Excellency has made known that he stands poised to manufacture a rubber match if Tyson prevails.
We could have already figured this out, but Alalshikh violated one of the protocols of boxing when he came flat out and said so. He effectively made Tyson Fury the “A-side,” no small potatoes considering that the most relevant variable on the checklist when handicapping a fight is, “Who does the promoter need?”
The Uzyk-Fury II fight card will air on DAZN with a suggested list price of $39.99 for U.S. fight fans. The main event is expected to start about 5:45 pm ET / 2:45 pm PT.
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Unheralded Bruno Surace went to Tijuana and Forged the TSS 2024 Upset of the Year
Unheralded Bruno Surace went to Tijuana and Forged the TSS 2024 Upset of the Year
The Dec. 14 fight at Tijuana between Jaime Munguia and Bruno Surace was conceived as a stay-busy fight for Munguia. The scuttlebutt was that Munguia’s promoters, Zanfer and Top Rank, wanted him to have another fight under his belt before thrusting him against Christian Mbilli in a WBC eliminator with the prize for the winner (in theory) a date with Canelo Alvarez.
Munguia came to the fore in May of 2018 at Verona, New York, when he demolished former U.S. Olympian Sadam Ali, conqueror of Miguel Cotto. That earned him the WBO super welterweight title which he successfully defended five times.
Munguia kept winning as he moved up in weight to middleweight and then super middleweight and brought a 43-0 (34) record into his Cinco de Mayo 2024 match with Canelo.
Jaime went the distance with Alvarez and had a few good moments while losing a unanimous decision. He rebounded with a 10th-round stoppage of Canada’s previously undefeated Erik Bazinyan.
There was little reason to think that Munguia would overlook Surace as the Mexican would be fighting in his hometown for the first time since February of 2022 and would want to send the home folks home happy. Moreover, even if Munguia had an off-night, there was no reason to think that the obscure Surace could capitalize. A Frenchman who had never fought outside France, Surace brought a 25-0-2 record and a 22-fight winning streak, but he had only four knockouts to his credit and only eight of his wins had come against opponents with winning records.
It appeared that Munguia would close the show early when he sent the Frenchman to the canvas in the second round with a big left hook. From that point on, Surace fought mostly off his back foot, throwing punches in spurts, whereas the busier Munguia concentrated on chopping him down with body punches. But Surace absorbed those punches well and at the midway point of the fight, behind on the cards but nonplussed, it now looked as if the bout would go the full 10 rounds with Munguia winning a lopsided decision.
Then lightning struck. Out of the blue, Surace connected with an overhand right to the jaw. Munguia went down flat on his back. He rose a fraction-of-a second before the count reached “10,”, but stumbled as he pulled himself upright. His eyes were glazed and referee Juan Jose Ramirez, a local man, waived it off. There was no protest coming from Munguia or his cornermen. The official time was 2:36 of round six.
At major bookmaking establishments, Jaime Munguia was as high as a 35/1 favorite. No world title was at stake, yet this was an upset for the ages.
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Steven Navarro is the TSS 2024 Prospect of the Year
“I get ‘Bam’ vibes when I watch this kid,” said ESPN ringside commentator Tim Bradley during the opening round of Steven Navarro’s most recent match. Bradley was referencing WBC super flyweight champion Jesse “Bam” Rodriguez, a precociously brilliant technician whose name now appears on most pound-for-pound lists.
There are some common threads between Steven Navarro, the latest fighter to adopt the nickname “Kid Dynamite,” and Bam Rodriguez. Both are southpaws currently competing in the junior bantamweight division. But, of course, Bradley was alluding to something more when he made the comparison. And Navarro’s showing bore witness that Bradley was on to something.
It was the fifth pro fight for Navarro who was matched against a Puerto Rican with a 7-1 ledger. He ended the contest in the second frame, scoring three knockdowns, each the result of a different combination of punches, forcing the referee to stop it. It was the fourth win inside the distance for the 20-year-old phenom.
Isaias Estevan “Steven” Navarro turned pro after coming up short in last December’s U.S. Olympic Trials in Lafayette, Louisiana. The #1 seed in the 57 kg (featherweight) division, he was upset in the finals, losing a controversial split decision. Heading in, Navarro had won 13 national tournaments beginning at age 12.
A graduate of LA’s historic Fairfax High School, Steven made his pro debut this past April on a Matchroom Promotions card at the Fontainebleau in Las Vegas and then inked a long-term deal with Top Rank. He comes from a boxing family. His father Refugio had 10 pro fights and three of Refugio’s cousins were boxers, most notably Jose Navarro who represented the USA at the 2000 Sydney Olympics and was a four-time world title challenger as a super flyweight. Jose was managed by Oscar De La Hoya for much of his pro career.
Nowadays, the line between a prospect and a rising contender has been blurred. Three years ago, in an effort to make matters less muddled, we operationally defined a prospect thusly: “A boxer with no more than a dozen fights, none yet of the 10-round variety.” To our way of thinking, a prospect by nature is still in the preliminary-bout phase of his career.
We may loosen these parameters in the future. For one thing, it eliminates a lot of talented female boxers who, like their Japanese male counterparts in the smallest weight classes, are often pushed into title fights when, from a historical perspective, they are just getting started.
But for the time being, we will adhere to our operational definition. And within the window that we have created, Steven Navarro stood out. In his first year as a pro, “Kid Dynamite” left us yearning to see more of him.
Honorable mention: Australian heavyweight Teremoana Junior (5-0, 5 KOs)
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