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Who Would Make For a More Alluring Opponent For Joshua, Wilder or Fury?

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Well it’s official. On December 1st WBC heavyweight title holder Deontay Wilder 40-0 (39) will face former lineal champ Tyson Fury 27-0 (19) at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. And then hopefully the winner will face WBA/IBF/WBO title holder Anthony Joshua 22-0 (21) in Joshua’s next fight, booked for April 13th of next year at Wembley Stadium. And as Muhammad Ali often said prior to facing Joe Frazier back in 1971 “we’re gonna clear up all the confusion as to who the real heavyweight champ of the world is.”

The winner of Wilder-Fury vs. Joshua will be the most anticipated heavyweight showdown in at least 20 years and the only question is who would make for a bigger and better fight for Joshua, Wilder or Fury? However, before getting to that, there must be some correlations highlighted that substantiate why if Fury won and faced Joshua, it would parallel in many respects the first fight between Ali and Frazier.

Tyson Fury’s journey resembles Muhammad Ali’s. After winning the title from Wladimir Klitschko, Fury backslid into alcohol and drug abuse and never defended it. He retired and remained inactive for 31 months before returning to the ring. Fury has fought two non-entities in Sefer Seferi and Francesco Pianeta since returning.

After nine title defenses, Ali was exiled from the ring for 43 months for refusing military induction. Like Fury, Ali fought twice before earning a title shot against champ Joe Frazier. The difference is Ali fought and beat two of the top five contenders in the division at the time in Jerry Quarry and Oscar Bonavena.

In the ring, Fury, like Ali in his era, is an unconventional boxer who uses the ring and applies an unorthodox offense and defense. But this characteristic they have in common pales in comparison to the one thing where Fury most closely resembles Ali, and that’s the ability to stir things up with words, actions and pointed threats and promises as to what he’s going to do to his next opponent. Fury is clearly the best trash talker since Ali and his ability to draw crowds and gain attention is unrivaled by any fighter in boxing today. If Fury beats Wilder he’ll have a picnic going after the perceived good guy Joshua just as Ali did going after Frazier with the verbal assaults he lobbed his way.

Speaking of Joshua, in this equation he’s Joe Frazier. AJ holds a majority of the available hardware as Joe did, he’s a big puncher who wins exclusively by knockout and pretty much doesn’t say or do anything that crosses the line or is seen as being controversial. And perhaps the thing that joins Joshua and Frazier the most is that they both emerged just when the high profile charismatic champ was exiting. In Ali’s absence, Frazier looked every bit as impressive as Ali did on the way up, whereas Joshua has looked even more formidable than did Fury on Fury’s way up to the title. Moreover, both Frazier and Joshua, as terrific as they looked in the ring, both needed to beat the other fighter to be considered the true champion. In Joe Frazier’s case that meant Ali and in Joshua’s case it’s the Wilder-Fury survivor.

Who makes for a better event and fight against Joshua; Wilder or Fury?

The answer to that isn’t just a matter of who you like better between Deontay and Tyson. One makes for a more compelling fight in the ring, strategically, and the other makes for a bigger event, overflowing with boldness and insulting statements directed at Joshua on a daily basis.

From an in-the-ring perspective, a fight between Wilder and Joshua would no doubt be a better fight and more explosive. They are the two biggest punchers in the heavyweight division who for all intents and purposes seek to win their bouts by knockout. Both have an extremely long reach and use it to set up their bread and butter punch which in this case is their right hand. It can be argued as to who is the bigger puncher, and it’s plausible Wilder’s best right hand is a bigger single shot than anything in Joshua’s arsenal. Conversely, Joshua is the better two handed puncher with a left hand that no doubt carries more finishing power. Joshua is the more polished technician with better form and technique, is more capable of accurately delivering his power consistently, and he has short power and doesn’t need as much room to do damage.

Something else Joshua and Wilder share is that neither is great defensively and each is vulnerable to what the other does well. Joshua is most vulnerable to cuffing/overhand rights and Wilder has been out-jabbed by many of his opponents. To date, neither has shown that they have a chin remotely close to the ones exhibited by George Foreman and Ron Lyle during their slug-fest for the ages. Joshua was dropped in his fight against Wladimir Klitschko and Wilder was dropped by Harold Sconiers, a journeyman with a losing record. Joshua was shook for a few seconds against Dillian Whyte before winning by stoppage and was jarred by Alexander Povetkin at the end of the first round in his last fight. As for Wilder, he was buzzed good by Artur Szpilka and, despite not going down, was close to being stopped by Luis Ortiz.

The point is both AJ and Deontay have more than enough power to get rid of the other inside the distance. Couple that with the fact that neither will have much trouble catching the other and there’s no way the fight can’t be action-packed. And it may be the millennial version of Foreman-Lyle, without them having to hit each other with as many clean bombs as George and Ron dropped on each other, simply because it’s doubtful Joshua or Wilder are as rugged or durable as they were. Obviously Wilder beating Fury affords fans an opportunity to see a more exciting fight pitting the top Brit and American heavyweights in the world against each other.

What if Fury beats Wilder?

If Fury wins and goes on to fight Joshua, the similarities to Frazier-Ali I are there as mentioned above. Fans would see theatrics and bombast that might even rival Ali’s behavior prior to taking on Frazier in the “Fight of The Century” back in 1971. And as we saw before he fought Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury, like Ali, is quite good at getting under his opponent’s skin. Fury will say things about Joshua that will make Ali calling Frazier an “Uncle Tom” seem like a pleasantry.

The other thing Fury shares with Ali is that he enters the ring more with a mindset to embarrass and humiliate his opponents than to hurt or knock them out. Fury, if he were to fight Joshua, wouldn’t even entertain beating him by stoppage. He’d be focused on out- maneuvering and out-boxing him, mixed in with some facial taunts and body gyrations during the action, again emulating Ali.

Being the lineal champ who never lost the title in the ring, Fury actually makes for the more credible fight if he were to beat Wilder. That’s because a Wilder win could be seen as being a matter of Fury having not gained his championship form after having fought only twice after a long layoff. And the likelihood is if Fury can beat Wilder, it would be by decision in a fight that went the full 12 rounds. And if that’s the case, Fury, having shaken off even more rust, could be better going in against Joshua than he was going into the Wilder bout.

Fury vs. Joshua is clearly a bigger fight from a monetary and promotional vantage point than Wilder vs. Joshua could ever hope to be. Wilder isn’t as well-known worldwide as Fury and isn’t nearly the promoter or entertainer Tyson is. And in the UK, the place they’d more than likely fight, it would be accompanied by a holiday and festive atmosphere like no other fight in British history. That said, the actual bout wouldn’t be exciting at all. And just as when he fought Klitschko, Fury would enter the ring against Joshua with the intent to make him look bad and turn the bout into a wrestling match instead of beating Joshua up or knocking him out.

So there you have it. If you want to be entertained, root for Wilder to beat Fury. On the other hand if you want to experience some funny antics and be amused up until the first bell, than you want Fury to beat Wilder.

Lastly, if the Wilder-Fury fight does come off as scheduled and the winner really fights Joshua in April, it’ll be the quickest turnaround between two major heavyweight title fights in years, and whoever fights Joshua should get a lot of credit for taking the fight so soon.

Between 1977 and 1982, Frank Lotierzo had over 50 fights in the middleweight division. He trained at Joe Frazier’s gym in Philadelphia under the tutelage of the legendary George Benton. Before joining The Sweet Science his work appeared in several prominent newsstand and digital boxing magazines and he hosted “Toe-to-Toe” on ESPN Radio. Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@gmail.com

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Arne’s Almanac: The First BWAA Dinner Was Quite the Shindig

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The first annual dinner of the Boxing Writers Association of America was staged on April 25, 1926 in the grand ballroom of New York’s Hotel Astor, an edifice that rivaled the original Waldorf Astoria as the swankiest hotel in the city. Back then, the organization was known as the Boxing Writers Association of Greater New York.

The ballroom was configured to hold 1200 for the banquet which was reportedly oversubscribed. Among those listed as agreeing to attend were the governors of six states (New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and Maryland) and the mayors of 10 of America’s largest cities.

In 1926, radio was in its infancy and the digital age was decades away (and inconceivable). So, every journalist who regularly covered boxing was a newspaper and/or magazine writer, editor, or cartoonist. And at this juncture in American history, there were plenty of outlets for someone who wanted to pursue a career as a sportswriter and had the requisite skills to get hired.

The following papers were represented at the inaugural boxing writers’ dinner:

New York Times

New York News

New York World

New York Sun

New York Journal

New York Post

New York Mirror

New York Telegram

New York Graphic

New York Herald Tribune

Brooklyn Eagle

Brooklyn Times

Brooklyn Standard Union

Brooklyn Citizen

Bronx Home News

This isn’t a complete list because a few of these papers, notably the New York World and the New York Journal, had strong afternoon editions that functioned as independent papers. Plus, scribes from both big national wire services (Associated Press and UPI) attended the banquet and there were undoubtedly a smattering of scribes from papers in New Jersey and Connecticut.

Back then, the event’s organizer Nat Fleischer, sports editor of the New York Telegram and the driving force behind The Ring magazine, had little choice but to limit the journalistic component of the gathering to writers in the New York metropolitan area. There wasn’t a ballroom big enough to accommodate a good-sized response if he had extended the welcome to every boxing writer in North America.

The keynote speaker at the inaugural dinner was New York’s charismatic Jazz Age mayor James J. “Jimmy” Walker, architect of the transformative Walker Law of 1920 which ushered in a new era of boxing in the Empire State with a template that would guide reformers in many other jurisdictions.

Prizefighting was then associated with hooligans. In his speech, Mayor Walker promised to rid the sport of their ilk. “Boxing, as you know, is closest to my heart,” said hizzoner. “So I tell you the police force is behind you against those who would besmirch or injure boxing. Rowdyism doesn’t belong in this town or in your game.” (In 1945, Walker would be the recipient of the Edward J. Neil Memorial Award given for meritorious service to the sport. The oldest of the BWAA awards, the previous recipients were all active or former boxers. The award, no longer issued under that title, was named for an Associated Press sportswriter and war correspondent who died from shrapnel wounds covering the Spanish Civil War.)

Another speaker was well-traveled sportswriter Wilbur Wood, then affiliated with the Brooklyn Citizen. He told the assembly that the aim of the organization was two-fold: to help defend the game against its detractors and to promote harmony among the various factions.

Of course, the 1926 dinner wouldn’t have been as well-attended without the entertainment. According to press dispatches, Broadway stars and performers from some of the city’s top nightclubs would be there to regale the attendees. Among the names bandied about were vaudeville superstars Sophie Tucker and Jimmy Durante, the latter of whom would appear with his trio, Durante, (Lou) Clayton, and (Eddie) Jackson.

There was a contraction of New York newspapers during the Great Depression. Although empirical evidence is lacking, the inaugural boxing writers dinner was likely the largest of its kind. Fifteen years later, in 1941, the event drew “more than 200” according to a news report. There was no mention of entertainment.

In 1950, for the first time, the annual dinner was opened to the public. For $25, a civilian could get a meal and mingle with some of his favorite fighters. Sugar Ray Robinson was the Edward J. Neil Award winner that year, honored for his ring exploits and for donating his purse from the Charlie Fusari fight to the Damon Runyon Cancer Fund.

There was no formal announcement when the Boxing Writers Association of Greater New York was re-christened the Boxing Writers Association of America, but by the late 1940s reporters were referencing the annual event as simply the boxing writers dinner. By then, it had become traditional to hold the annual affair in January, a practice discontinued after 1971.

The winnowing of New York’s newspaper herd plus competing banquets in other parts of the country forced Nat Fleischer’s baby to adapt. And more adaptations will be necessary in the immediate future as the future of the BWAA, as it currently exists, is threatened by new technologies. If the forthcoming BWAA dinner (April 30 at the Edison Ballroom in mid-Manhattan) were restricted to wordsmiths from the traditional print media, the gathering would be too small to cover the nut and the congregants would be drawn disproportionately from the geriatric class.

Some of those adaptations have already started. Last year, Las Vegas resident Sean Zittel, a recent UNLV graduate, had the distinction of becoming the first videographer welcomed into the BWAA. With more and more people getting their news from sound bites, rather than the written word, the videographer serves an important function.

The reporters who conducted interviews with pen and paper have gone the way of the dodo bird and that isn’t necessarily a bad thing. A taped interview for a “talkie” has more integrity than a story culled from a paper and pen interview because it is unfiltered. Many years ago, some reporters, after interviewing the great Joe Louis, put  words in his mouth that made him seem like a dullard, words consistent with the Sambo stereotype. In other instances, the language of some athletes was reconstructed to the point where the reader would think the athlete had a second job as an English professor.

The content created by videographers is free from that bias. More of them will inevitably join the BWAA and similar organizations in the future.

Photo: Nat Fleischer is flanked by Sugar Ray Robinson and Tony Zale at the 1947 boxing writers dinner.

A recognized authority on the history of prizefighting and the history of American sports gambling, TSS editor-in-chief Arne K. Lang is the author of five books including “Prizefighting: An American History,” released by McFarland in 2008 and re-released in a paperback edition in 2020.
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Gabriela Fundora KOs Marilyn Badillo and Perez Upsets Conwell in Oceanside

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It was just a numbers game for Gabriela Fundora and despite Mexico’s Marilyn Badillo’s elusive tactics it took the champion one punch to end the fight and retain her undisputed flyweight world title by knockout on Saturday.

Will it be her last flyweight defense?

Though Fundora (16-0, 8 KOs) fired dozens of misses, a single punch found Badillo (19-1-1, 3 KOs) and ended her undefeated career and first attempt at a world title at the Frontwave Arena in Oceanside, California.

Fundora, however, proves unbeatable at flyweight.

The champion entered the arena as the headliner for the Golden Boy Promotion show and stepped through the ropes with every physical advantage possible, including power.

Mexico’s Badillo was a midget compared to Fundora but proved to be as elusive as a butterfly in a menagerie for the first six rounds. As the six-inch taller Fundora connected on one punch for every dozen thrown, that single punch was a deadly reminder.

Badillo tried ducking low and slipping to the left while countering with slashing uppercuts, she found little success. She did find the body a solid target but the blows proved to be useless. And when Badillo clinched, that proved more erroneous as Fundora belted her rapidly during the tie-ups.

“She was kind of doing her ducking thing,” said Fundora describing Badillo’s defensive tactics. “I just put the pressure on. It was just like a train. We didn’t give her that break.”

The Mexican fighter tried valiantly with various maneuvers. None proved even slightly successful. Fundora remained poised and under control as she stalked the challenger.

In the seventh round Badillo seemed to take a stand and try to slug it out with Fundora. She quickly was lit up by rapid left crosses and down she went at 1:44 of the seventh round. The Mexican fighter’s corner wisely waved off the fight and referee Rudy Barragan stopped the fight and held the dazed Badillo upright.

Once again Fundora remained champion by knockout. The only question now is will she move up to super flyweight or bantamweight to challenge the bigger girls.

Perez Beats Conwell.

Mexico’s Jorge “Chino” Perez (33-4, 26 KOs) upset Charles Conwell (21-1, 15 KOs) to win by split decision after 12 rounds in their super welterweight showdown.

It was a match that paired two hard-hitting fighters whose ledgers brimmed with knockouts, but neither was able to score a knockdown against each other.

Neither fighter moved backward. It was full steam ahead with Conwell proving successful to the body and head with left hooks and Perez connecting with rights to the head and body. It was difficult to differentiate the winner.

Though Conwell seemed to be the superior defensive fighter and more accurate, two judges preferred Perez’s busier style. They gave the fight to Perez by 115-113 scores with the dissenter favoring Conwell by the same margin.

It was Conwell’s first pro loss. Maybe it will open doors for more opportunities.

Other Bouts

Tristan Kalkreuth (15-1) managed to pass a serious heat check by unanimous decision against former contender Felix Valera (24-8) after a 10-round back-and-forth heavyweight fight.

It was very close.

Kalkreuth is one of those fighters that possess all the physical tools including youth and size but never seems to be able to show it. Once again he edged past another foe but at least this time he faced an experienced fighter in Valera.

Valera had his moments especially in the middle of the 10-round fight but slowed down during the last three rounds.

One major asset for Kalkreuth was his chin. He got caught but still motored past the clever Valera. After 10 rounds two judges saw it 99-91 and one other judge 97-93 all for Kalkreuth.

Highly-rated prospect Ruslan Abdullaev (2-0) blasted past dangerous Jino Rodrigo (13- 5-2) in an eight round super lightweight fight. He nearly stopped the very tough Rodrigo in the last two rounds and won by unanimous decision.

Abdullaev is trained by Joel and Antonio Diaz in Indio.

Bakersfield prospect Joel Iriarte (7-0, 7 KOs) needed only 1:44 to knock out Puerto Rico’s Marcos Jimenez (25-12) in a welterweight bout.

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‘Krusher’ Kovalev Exits on a Winning Note: TKOs Artur Mann in his ‘Farewell Fight’

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At his peak, former three-time world light heavyweight champion Sergey “Krusher” Kovalev ranked high on everyone’s pound-for-pound list. Now 42 years old – he turned 42 earlier this month – Kovalev has been largely inactive in recent years, but last night he returned to the ring in his hometown of Chelyabinsk, Russia, and rose to the occasion in what was billed as his farewell fight, stopping Artur Mann in the seventh frame.

Kovalev hit his peak during his first run as a world title-holder. He was 30-0-1 (26 KOs) entering first match with Andre Ward, a mark that included a 9-0 mark in world title fights. The only blemish on his record was a draw that could have been ruled a no-contest (journeyman Grover Young was unfit to continue after Kovalev knocked down in the second round what with was deemed an illegal rabbit punch). Among those nine wins were two stoppages of dangerous Haitian-Canadian campaigner Jean Pascal and a 12-round shutout over Bernard Hopkins.

Kovalev’s stature was not diminished by his loss to the undefeated Ward. All three judges had it 114-113, but the general feeling among the ringside press was that Sergey nicked it.

The rematch was also somewhat controversial. Referee Tony Weeks, who halted the match in the eighth stanza with Kovalev sitting on the lower strand of ropes, was accused of letting Ward get away with a series of low blows, including the first punch of a three-punch series of body shots that culminated in the stoppage. Sergey was wobbled by a punch to the head earlier in the round and was showing signs of fatigue, but he was still in the fight. Respected judge Steve Weisfeld had him up by three points through the completed rounds.

Sergey Kovalev was never the same after his second loss to Andre Ward, albeit he recaptured a piece of the 175-pound title twice, demolishing Vyacheslav Shabranskyy for the vacant WBO belt after Ward announced his retirement and then avenging a loss to Eleider Alvarez (TKO by 7) with a comprehensive win on points in their rematch.

Kovalev’s days as a title-holder ended on Nov. 2, 2019 when Canelo Alvarez, moving up two weight classes to pursue a title in a fourth weight division, stopped him in the 11th round, terminating what had been a relatively even fight with a hellacious left-right combination that left Krusher so discombobulated that a count was superfluous.

That fight went head-to-head with a UFC fight in New York City. DAZN, to their everlasting discredit, opted to delay the start of Canelo-Kovalev until the main event of the UFC fight was finished. The delay lasted more than an hour and Kovalev would say that he lost his psychological edge during the wait.

Kovalev had two fights in the cruiserweight class between his setback to Canelo and last night’s presumptive swan song. He outpointed Tervel Pulev in Los Angeles and lost a 10-round decision to unheralded Robin Sirwan Safar in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

Artur Mann, a former world title challenger – he was stopped in three rounds by Mairis Briedis in 2021 when Briedis was recognized as the top cruiserweight in the world – was unexceptional, but the 34-year-old German, born in Kazakhstan, wasn’t chopped liver either, and Kovalev’s stoppage of him will redound well to the Russian when he becomes eligible for the Boxing Hall of Fame.

Krusher almost ended the fight in the second round. He knocked Mann down hard with a short left hand and seemingly scored another knockdown before the round was over (but it was ruled a slip). Mann barely survived the round.

In the next round, a punch left Mann with a bad cut on his right eyelid, but the German came to fight and rounds three, four and five were competitive.

Kovalev had a good sixth round although there were indications that he was tiring. But in the seventh he got a second wind and unleashed a right-left combination that rolled back the clock to the days when he was one of the sport’s most feared punchers. Mann went down hard and as he staggered to his feet, his corner signaled that the fight should be stopped and the referee complied. The official time was 0:49 of round seven. It was the 30th KO for Kovalev who advanced his record to 36-5-1.

Addendum: History informs us that Farewell Fights have a habit of becoming redundant, by which we mean that boxers often get the itch to fight again after calling it quits. Have we seen the last of Sergey “Krusher” Kovalev? We woudn’t bet on it.

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