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Boxers Say the ‘Realist’ Things (And You Can Quote Me On That)
As a boxing journalist since 2010, I’ve gathered my fair share of quotes. Some of them were as forgettable as yesterday’s fake news while others are the stuff that BWAA Bernie Award winning stories are made of. Here is a quick collection (20) of my favorites compiled for your enjoyment.
They’re all the kind of candid quotes that boxing publicists might obtain but would never include in their politically correct press releases where the “quotes” are often made up or flat-out fudged.
These are taken from my personal archives and from my recent years writing for The Sweet Science. They’re all quotes I personally procured or were obtained by writers who wrote for me, most notably Joel Sebastianelli, the young scribe assigned to conduct the KO Digest interviews I’d set up monthly. They also come from press conferences, conference calls, and live events. They’re all the real deal.
GEORGE FOREMAN on why he didn’t fight Mike Tyson: ”Some things are not meant to happen. Two punchers, meeting in the middle of the ring, neither one looking to retreat. That would’ve been one of the greatest heavyweight fights of all time. No jabbing and hiding out of the way. I wish it had happened for boxing’s sake but I’m glad it didn’t happen for my own safety.”
MIKE TYSON on becoming a sober promoter: ”My job is to tell the truth. It’s an uphill battle. I wasn’t using drugs when I was fighting but I drank everyday. I was always drinking. I didn’t wait until the fight was over to drink. Thank God I’m not doing that anymore. I was about to die. My objective now is to promote these fighters. They’ll market themselves by their performance.”
LAILA ALI talks up women’s boxing: “Opportunities have to be created. If a promoter gets behind them the way they did in the UFC with Ronda Rousey, anything is possible. There’s a lot of talent out there but there is nobody behind them to promote them and that’s what it takes.”
WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO on which piece he is on a chess board: “The Queen because the Queen can move anywhere‒a combination of the Queen and the horse; a Queen that sits on a horse.”
LENNOX LEWIS recalls fighting Vitali Klitschko: “He was a guy I had to figure out, and when I say figure out, the man wasn’t easy to hit. Plus he was WAY taller than me and had longer arms. My last major opponent before that was Mike Tyson so to adapt to his different qualities such as the height and the reach, was a big challenge to me.”
VITALI KLITSCHKO respects Lennox Lewis: ”In all my career I never met so strong an opponent as Lennox. I never took so many punches. I never looked so horrible like in that fight. I’m appreciative Lennox gave me a chance to prove my skills against the strongest boxer of all time. I have lots of experience and I can definitely say Lewis was the hardest fight in my career.”
ZAB JUDAH on Micky Ward: “Micky was one of the toughest fights I had in my career. It came at a time when I was only 15-0 as a pro and this guy was like a legend. Everybody told me don’t fight him. I went in there and defeated him but it was no easy task. Big shoutout to Micky Ward.”
MICKY WARD on Floyd Mayweather Jr.: ”There’s only one Floyd Mayweather. He’s leaps and bounds ahead of everyone even at his age. It’s incredible how hard he works. People don’t see how dedicated that kid is. He might be spending money or doing this and that but hey, the damn kid earned it. He can brag all he wants, he’s proven himself over and over. You got kids just turning pro and they’re bragging. That’s bull****. Someone like Floyd can talk all he wants.”
MARLON STARLING on the night be beat Mark Breland: “Let me tell you something. I got the s*** beat out of me in that fight. I got hit with everything but the kitchen sink. I fought that fight from the heart instead of from the head. That fight, I got an ass whooping, but guess what? I came home with the title. You know what they say in boxing: it ain’t how you start, it’s how you finish.”
JEFF FENECH laments: “After the first Azumah Nelson fight, I have no excuses, but I was never the same. I was going to be the first boxer ever to win four world titles undefeated. I was the first fighter to win three world titles undefeated. Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, and Roberto Duran all lost before winning their fourth titles. I was the first undefeated three-time world champion. After that draw, I was never the same. I can’t put my finger on it, but something left me that day.”
PAULIE MALIGNAGGI on Punch Stat and CompuBox: “Do you know how many people think that there’s a special chip in the gloves that counts punches landed and don’t realize it’s actually some guy playing Nintendo and pressing buttons deciding what lands and what doesn’t.”
VIRGIL HILL on fighting the great Roy Jones Jr.: “I just did not expect him to throw a shot to the body. He never threw a body shot before, particularly with the right hand, so we just got caught. It was the hardest shot I have ever been hit with, for sure. When you get hit like that with a body shot, the only thing I really remember is them saying “six, seven…” Up until that point, I believe we had the right formula. Had it gone two more rounds, it would have been a different story.”
RAY MANCINI goes 15 rounds: “The true championship distance is 15 rounds. I have a problem with guys who only have to go 12 and got into the International Boxing Hall of Fame before guys who went 15. I lost but against Arguello and Livingstone Bramble, I was winning after 12 rounds. So if it’s only 12 rounds, I’m undefeated! What would they say now if I had beat those legends?”
TIM BRADLEY on his being an action fighter: “I fought Provodnikov with sheer heart. I was in a bad place at that time mentally, the Pacquiao controversy and everything I just went through. That’s the reason I fought the way I did that night. I felt I had a lot to prove to the world and to myself, that I’m a true champion. I wanted to show everyone what I was made of. After that crazy fight, I learned a lot from that going into the Marquez fight. Some light started shining on my career, so I said, give me the guy that just beat Manny, I want Marquez. Everybody thought I was crazy but by staying disciplined in my craft, it worked out well. Now I know what I’m capable of. If I have to dig deep, I know I have it in there. There is nothing I can’t do in the ring.”
JOHN MOLINA JR. explains his popularity: “Fans root for me because I’ve been the underdog every way you can imagine. I didn’t turn pro until I was 24. I had only 22 amateur fights. I’m showing everybody that if you stick to something you apply yourself, you can make it. That’s why fans are intrigued with my style. I’m a first class example of getting past discouragement.”
TONY “THE TIGER” THOMPSON on his lack of fan appeal: “Maybe it’s the ‘2000 Larry Holmes body’ or maybe it’s the boring left hand, defensive first style, or maybe it’s a face for radio.”
SHANNON “Let’s Go Champ” BRIGGS: ”I’m active, pumped up, and fired up now more than ever. Everything happens for a reason, and you know what? I’m the black Cinderella Man. I’m going to shock the world and get a fight with this bum Wladimir Klitschko and knock his face off.”
MIKE WEAVER describes how he got into boxing: ”I got into a fight in the Marines. I went to a club and tried to play a song on the jukebox. I got there before this other guy and he pushed me out of the way. I shoved him back and he swung at me and missed. I swung back and knocked him out. Two days later, they asked me if I was interested in joining the boxing team. I said, “I never boxed a day in my life. I don’t know the first thing about boxing.” He said, ”The guy you knocked out was the heavyweight champion of the Marine Corps.” That’s the way it started.”
JOHNATHON BANKS on speculation he ‘threw’ the Seth Mitchell rematch: “I’ve dedicated my life to boxing and I’d rather die than to throw or give a fight away. I fractured both hands in the first round. I thought I broke them. Each and every time I threw a punch, it was hurting so bad! I’ve been nothing but honest and a stand-up guy all my life, especially in the sport of boxing. I have too much integrity and too much love for the sport and the fans to do anything like that.”
BRYAN DANIELS on boxing Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev: “I fought him in 2010 when I was a novice with only six fights. I fought him twice that tournament but he was more experienced being an open class fighter. He was not in great shape but had the experience to get the victory. I advanced that year because he was not a legal citizen but I never got the chance to get a rematch. I spoke to him after the fights and he appeared really cocky and arrogant, no respect for anyone. He came to our gym a couple times with no regard toward safety. He would spar with no headgear. I don’t believe he valued life or the opportunity that he had with the sport because he never boxed again after 2010. I guess he turned for the worst.”
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Cardoso, Nunez, and Akitsugi Bring Home the Bacon in Plant City
Cardoso, Nunez, and Akitsugi Bring Home the Bacon in Plant City
The final ShoBox event of 2025 played out tonight at the company’s regular staging ground in Plant City, Florida. When the smoke cleared, the “A-side” fighters in the featured bouts were 3-0 in step-up fights vs. battle-tested veterans, two of whom were former world title challengers. However, the victors in none of the three fights, with the arguable exception of lanky bantamweight Katsuma Akitsugi, made any great gain in public esteem.
In the main event, a lightweight affair, Jonhatan Cardoso, a 25-year-old Brazilian, earned a hard-fought, 10-round unanimous decision over Los Mochis, Mexico southpaw Eduardo Ramirez. The decision would have been acceptable to most neutral observers if it had been deemed a draw, but the Brazilian won by scores of 97-93 and 96-94 twice.
Cardoso, now 18-1 (15), had the crowd in his corner., This was his fourth straight appearance in Plant City. Ramirez, disadvantaged by being the smaller man with a shorter reach, declined to 28-5-3.
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In a 10-round featherweight fight that had no indelible moments, Luis Reynaldo Nunez advanced to 20-0 (13) with a workmanlike 10-round unanimous decision over Mexico’s Leonardo Baez. The judges had it 99-91 and 98-92 twice.
Nunez, from the Dominican Republic, is an economical fighter who fights behind a tight guard. Reputedly 85-5 as an amateur, he is managed by Sampson Lewkowicz who handles David Benavidez among others and trained by Bob Santos. Baez (22-5) was returning to the ring after a two-year hiatus.
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In a contest slated for “10,” ever-improving bantamweight Katsuma Akitsugi improved to 12-0 (3 KOs) with a sixth-round stoppage of Filipino import Aston Palicte (28-7-1). Akitsugi caught Palicte against the ropes and unleashed a flurry of punches climaxed by a right hook. Palicte went down and was unable to beat the count. The official time was 1:07 of round six.
This was the third straight win by stoppage for Akitsugi, a 27-year-old southpaw who trains at Freddie Roach’s Wild Card gym in LA under Roach’s assistant Eddie Hernandez. Palicte, who had been out of the ring for 16 months, is a former two-time world title challenger at superflyweight (115).
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Introducing Jaylan Phillips, Boxing’s Palindrome Man
On Thursday, Nov. 28, as Americans hunkered down at the dinner table with family and friends for our annual Thanksgiving Day feast, junior welterweight Jaylan Phillips and his trainer Kevin Henry were up in the sky flying from Las Vegas to Rochester, New York. For their Thanksgiving repast, they were offered a tiny bag of peanuts.
Phillips would not have eaten too much had the opportunity presented itself. The next day was the weigh-in. On Saturday, the 30th, he would compete in the 6-round main event of a small club show.
Phillips wasn’t brought to Rochester to win. His opponent, Wilfredo Flores, had a checkered career but he had once held a regional title and he lived in the general area. In boxing parlance, Jaylan Phillips was the “B” side. His role, from the promoter’s standpoint, was to fatten the record of the house fighter.
Jaylan didn’t follow the script. He won a unanimous decision over his 11-3-1 opponent, advancing his record to 4-3-4, and returned to Las Vegas with a new nickname, albeit not one of his own choosing or intended as a permanent accessory. This reporter dubbed him The Palindrome Man.
A palindrome is a word that spells the same backward and forward. Phillips’ current record is palindrome-ish.
It’s an odd record. One would be hard-pressed to find other active boxers with a slew of draws inside a small window of fights. It harks to the days, circa 1900, when some journeymen boxers accumulated as many draws as wins and losses combined.
A boxer with a 4-3-4 record would seem to be an unlikely candidate for a feature story, but the affable Jaylan Phillips is not your run-of-the-mill prizefighter.
Boxers, as we know, tend to be city folk, drawn from the black belts and the barrios of America’s urban places. Phillips grew up in Ebro, Florida, population 237 per the 2020 U.S. census. Ebro is in the Florida panhandle in the northwestern part of the state in a county that was dry until 2022. It is 23 miles due north of Panama City Beach but a world apart from the seaside Florida resort town and its pricey beachfront condos.
Of those 237 people, only five identified as African-American or black, or so it would be written, but the census-taker was obviously slothful. “That’s a crazy number,” says Phillips. “There has to be at least 40 or 50. And the reason I know that is that we are all related.”
“What does one do for excitement in Ebro?” we asked him. “Hunting, fishing, trapping, that sort of thing,” he said. And what does one trap? “Mostly raccoons,” he said, while adding that some of the elders in his extended family consider it a delicacy.
Phillips fought in Rochester, New York, on Saturday and was back in the gym in Las Vegas on Tuesday. He lives alone and does not own a car. His apartment, near UNLV, is three-and-a-half miles from the Top Rank Gym where he does most of his training. He jogs there and then jogs home again, this in a city where the temperature routinely exceeds 100 degrees for much of the year.
During his high school years, Phillips, now 25, concedes that he smoked a lot of weed and it impacted his grades. His interest in boxing was fueled by the exploits of Roy Jones Jr, another fighter with roots in the Florida panhandle. In his spare time, he enjoys watching tapes of old Sugar Ray Robinson fights which can be found on youtube. “He was the best,” says Phillips of Robinson who has been dead for 35 years, echoing an opinion that hasn’t diminished with the passage of time.
In his second pro fight, Phillips was thrust against a baby-faced novice from Cleveland, Abdullah Mason. Although Mason was only 17 years old, the Top Rank matchmaker did Jaylan no favors. He was still standing when the referee waived the fight off in the second round.
About the heavily-hyped Mason, Phillips says, “He’s a beast, like they say, but I would love to fight him again. I took that fight on two weeks’ notice. I’m confident the outcome would have been different if I had had a full camp.”
This observation will undoubtedly strike some as a delusion. Pound for pound, the precocious Mason just may be the top pro fighter in the world in his age group. But Jaylan isn’t lacking confidence which spills over when he talks about what lies ahead for him. “I will be a world champion,” he says matter-of-factly. And after boxing? “I see myself back home in Ebro living a humble life, hunting and fishing, but with a million dollars in the bank.”
If unswerving dedication and self-confidence are the keys to a successful boxing career, then Jaylan Phillips, notwithstanding his 4-3-4 record, is destined for big things. But here’s the rub:
“In boxing, it isn’t what you earn, but what you negotiate,” says the esteemed British boxing pundit Steve Bunce alluding to the importance of a well-connected manager. In a perfect world, each win would be stepping-stone to a bigger fight with a commensurately larger purse. But in this chaotic sport, a “B side” fighter who scores an upset in a low-level fight may actually be penalized for his “impertinence.” Promoters may be wary of using him again (the old “risk/reward” encumbrance) and, in a sport where it’s important for an up-and-comer to stay busy, his progress may be stalled.
Phillips doesn’t know when his next assignment will materialize, but regardless he will keep plugging along while setting an example that others who aspire to greatness would be wise to emulate.
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Emanuel Navarrete and Rafael Espinoza Shine in Phoenix
Emanuel Navarrete and Rafael Espinoza Shine in Phoenix
PHOENIX – Saturday was a busy night on the global boxing scene, and it’s quite likely that the howling attendees in Phoenix’s Footprint Center witnessed the finest overall card of the international schedule. The many Mexican flags on display in the packed, scaled down arena signaled the event’s theme.
Co-main events featured rematches that arose from a pair of prior crowd-pleasing slugfests. Each of tonight’s headlining bouts ended at the halfway point, but that was their only similarity.
Emanuel “Vaquero” Navarrete, now 39-2-1 (32), defended his WBO Junior Lightweight belt with a dramatic stoppage of more-than-willing Oscar Valdez, 32-3 (24). The 29-year-old champion spoke of retirement wishes, but after dominating a blazing battle in which he scored three knockdowns, his only focus was relaxing during the holidays then getting back to what sounded like long-term business.
“Valdez was extremely tough in this fight,” said Navarrete. “I knew I had to push him back and I did. You are now witnessing the second phase of my career and you can expect great things from me in 2025.”
“I don’t really know about the future,” said the crestfallen, 33-year-old Valdez. “No excuses. He did what he wanted to and I couldn’t.”
Navarrete, a three-division titlist, came up one scorecard short of a fourth belt in his previous fight last May, a split decision loss to Denys Berinchyk. This was Navarrete’s fourth Arizona appearance so he was cheered like a homeboy, but Valdez was definitely the crowd favorite, evident from the cheers that erupted as both fighters were shown arriving in glistening, low rider automobiles.
Both men came out throwing huge shots, but it was Navarrete who scored a flash knockdown in the first round, setting the tone for the rest of the fight. There was fierce action in every frame, with Navarrete getting the best of most of it, but even when he was in trouble Valdez roared back and brought the crowd to their feet. He got dropped again at the very end of round four, and Navarrete sent his mouthpiece into orbit the round after that.
When Navarrette drove Valdez into the ropes during round six it looked like referee Raul Caiz, Jr was about to intervene, but before he could decide, Navarrete finished matters himself with a perfect left to the ribs that crumpled Valdez into a KO at 2:42.
“He talked about getting ready to retire soon so I told him we had to fight again right now,” said Valdez prior to the rematch. There were numerous “be careful what you wish for” type predictions of doom and he entered the ring at around a two to one underdog, understanding the contest’s make or break stakes. “Boxing penalizes you if you have a lot of losses,” observed Valdez. “It’s not like other sports where you can lose and do better next season. In boxing, most people don’t want to see you again after a couple of losses.”
What Valdez might decide remains to be seen, but even in defeat he proved to be a warrior worth watching.
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After their epic, razor-close encounter almost exactly a year ago, it was obvious Rafael Espinoza, and fellow 30-year-old Robeisy Ramirez should meet again for the WBO featherweight title belt Espinoza earned by an upset majority decision. Espinoza turned the trick again this time around, inside the distance, but it was more anti-climactic than anything like toe-to-toe.
The 6’1” Espinoza, now 26-0 (22), was the aggressor from the opening frame, but 5’6” Ramirez, 14-3 (9) employed his short stature well to stay out of immediate danger and countered to the body for a slight edge. The Cuban challenger avoided much of their previous firefight and initially controlled the tempo. The crowd jeered him for staying away but it was an effective strategy, at least at first.
Espinoza connected much better in the fifth round and looked fresher as Ramirez’s face rapidly reddened. Suddenly, seemingly out of nowhere in round six, Ramirez took a punch then raised a glove in surrender. Whatever the reason, even looking at Ramirez’s swollen right eye, it looked like a “No Mas” moment. Replays showed a straight right to the eye socket, but that didn’t stop the crowd from hooting their disgust after ref Chris Flores signaled the end at 0:12.
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Richard Torrez, Jr, now 12-0 (11), displayed his Olympic silver medal pedigree in a heavyweight bout against Issac Munoz, 18-2-1 (15). Torrez, 236.6, found his punching range quickly with southpaw leads as Munoz, 252, tried to stand his ground but looked hurt by early body work that forced him into the ropes. He was gasping for breath as Torrez peppered him in the second, and Munoz went back to his corner on unsteady legs.
Munoz’s team should have thought about saving him for another day in the third as he ate big shots. Luckily, referee Raul Caiz, Jr. was wiser and had seen enough, waving it off for a TKO at 0:59.
“I don’t train for the opponent,” reflected Torrez, who isn’t far from true contender status. “Every time I train, I train for a world championship fight.”
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Super-lightweight Lindolfo Delgado, 139.9, improved to 22-0 (16), and took another step into the world title picture against Jackson Marinez, now 22-4 (10), 139.2.
On paper this junior welterweight matchup appeared fairly even, and Marinez managed to keep it that way for almost half the scheduled ten rounds against a solid prospect but Delgado kept upping the ante until Marinez was out of chips. The assembled swarm was whistling for more action after three tentative opening frames, as Delgado loaded up but couldn’t put much offense together.
That changed in the 4th when Delgado connected with solid crosses. In the fifth, a fine combination dropped Marinez into a delayed knockdown and a wicked follow-up right to the guts finished the wobbly Marinez, who had nothing to be ashamed of, off in the arms of ref Wes Melton. Official TKO time was 2:13.
In a matter of concurrent programming, Saturday also held a lot of highly publicized college football and basketball games which likely detracted from the larger mainstream audience and media coverage this fight card deserved. That’s a shame but you can’t fault boxing, Top Rank, or any of the fighters for that because, once again, they all came through big time in Phoenix.
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