Articles of 2007
Peter-Toney II Fight Predictions
Live Saturday night from the Seminole Hard Rock in Hollywood, Fla. (Showtime), heavyweights Samuel “The Nigerian Nightmare” Peter and James “Lights Out” Toney fight the rematch of their inconclusive first bout last September. That first go-round ended up with Peter the victor by split decision and the presumptive next challenger to the champ Oleg Maskaev’s title, but the hue and cry was so loud even the WBC managed to hear it, which led to the mandated rematch this weekend. Like the first fight, Peter has advantages in youth, size and power, whereas Toney is simply Toney. This is how The Sweet Science writers see Peter vs. Toney II.
The second time around is not always better than the first time. Both James Toney and Sam Peter have boasted of training regimens that have transformed their bodies since their first fight four months ago, but the bet here is that we will see more of the same. Toney, at 38, gets hit more than in younger days, but he has enough left to weather Peter’s powerful, but infrequent, blows. Like the first time, Toney will pick his spots and win enough rounds to beat Peter by decision. This time, I hope, the judges will judge correctly. Toney by decision
David Berlin
Having still not seen the first fight, I'm probably not the best judge to be making predictions. I'll make a few pointers though – as unrefined as Peter is, Toney is an old fighter with a lot of fights on him and he's taken poundings in his last two fights; so much that he's spent time in hospital. Age can't be held off indefinitely by any man. I'd say that Toney's time among the heavyweights peaked following his fight against Holyfield. Since then, he's not been as good. Peter, on the other hand, has the power but not the skill. Interesting matchup but the subdued buildup has provided more thrills than the actual fight will. Samuel Peter to win … Rivera by decision. Too much experience, too strong a chin. Age beats youth.
Peter M. Carvill
This will not look much like the first simply because James Toney is too smart to allow history to repeat itself. Sure, Sam Peter will throw hard punches and Toney will bounce off the ropes in an attempt to draw Peter. This fight will differ because Toney will do everything else he needs to in between to earn a unanimous decision.
Jesse K. Cox
It's never smart to bet against Toney, so I won't. He's just too comfortable inside the ring. And if he's really lost some fat and worked on his stamina, he could be even more dangerous. I can't see him stopping Peter, but I can't see him losing, either. He wins the rematch by easy decision.
Rick Folstad
Toney will conclude this bout with no questions asked this time around and emerge the champion. Entering into his second go round with Peter, Toney has added better conditioning and a boost from guru Billy Blanks to his already crafty arsenal. All of this combined adds up to a winning combination for Toney, who already knows more about boxing than Peter could ever forget. Gracing the Toney Peter undercard will be Laura “Lady Ram” Ramsey (6-2) of Winterhaven, Florida and Ijeoma “The Praise” Egbunine (12-1) of Marietta, Georgia. Ramsey is returning to the ring after a heavy-handed first round KO of Erin Toughill in August, and Egbunine last saw ring action when she scored a 2nd round TKO over Asa Sandell, which gives both fighters an opponent in common, which they both defeated. Look for “The Praise” to face her stiffest competition in “Lady Ram” who is better conditioned and tough on the inside with a devastating right hand. A close exciting battle and thanks to Don King for adding the ladies to the event.
Amy Green
The first fight was defined by Sam Peter's ineffectual moments as much as by James Toney's inability to throw quality combinations off the counter, for a decade his stock and trade as a championship fighter. Toney's lack of conditioning relative to his weight and the brunt of Peter's thumping blows made Toney look far less effective, unable to make Peter pay for long stretches of mediocre boxing. Billy Blanks, it is being asserted, will have Toney fit and able to throw at a higher rate… well, then there is the fact of Toney's age and the attrition rate of having contested so many big time fights at a weight far beyond what one might surmise as a normative weight threshold for the Californian. Frankly, Toney looks and acts tired as often as he does fit and one has to wonder if at 37-plus years old is the Blanks Plan taking the juice out of Toney? It might just be so. Peter UD12 Toney.
Patrick Kehoe
Peter has yet to persuade us that he is a finished product. (Although Toney could finish him.) We’re not big on this Tae Bo stuff, but if Toney is even in a semblance of condition he should be able to first outbox and eventually outslug the Nigerian Nightmare. Neither of these guys has ever been stopped, but there’s always a first: Toney in a late-round TKO … A year ago we’d have rated Rivera-Simms a virtual tossup, but the WBA junior middle champ (witness his five-knockdown performance against Terra Garcia) seems to be getting better with each fight, while Simms, the “champion in recess,” has literally been on recess. (Rivera has fought sparingly in recent years, but Simms hasn’t fought at all.) We like Rivera to retain his title by decision.
George Kimball
Both fighters are likely to come into this fight in better condition than the first go-round, and the fight will likely follow a similar path as the first. I thought Toney did enough in terms of blocking Samuel Peter's looping blows and landing the cleaner punches, but the judges didn't agree with me. Still, Toney seems to be too wise a fighter to be caught often by the heavy-handed Nigerian. Toney has likely forgotten more about the sweet science than Sam Peter will ever know, and hopefully he will help me forget the losing wager I made on Lights Out to win by decision in the first bout by taking a close decision in the rematch here.
Joey Knish
Toney reminds me of Bernard Hopkins at the tail end of his career. Aged but still with so much skill he’s almost boring. He fights thirty seconds of each rounds and spends the rest of the round using his defense to recharge for his next thirty second run. Eventually, James Toney’s battery will charge no more. Samuel Peter is younger, stronger and gained valuable experience in the last go-round. Peter is the fat man’s worst nightmare this time around – surprise, surprise – Peter via 7th round KO.
Scott Mallon
It is hard to imagine Toney coming into the fight in better shape than last time. He hasn't been in peak shape for years, so why should things change now? The bigger, stronger and younger Peter will win a much more convincing decision this time. Peter W 12 … Both Rivera and Simms are fighting mad about the snail-like pace of their careers. However it seems that it has gotten to Simms in more negative ways than Rivera. The always hardworking Rivera, who seems to have a positive outlook during good times and bad, will win an exciting decision. Rivera W 12.
Robert Mladinich
I'm prepared to believe the unbelievable, that James Toney will be toned from the gym. Peter is predictable, slow and Toney will only have gained knowledge and focus from their first meeting and the unsatisfactory result. Toney UD12.
David Payne
It’ll be deja vu all over again. Forget the scales, this fight’s gonna be a replay of the first. Peter can’t do anything else and James won’t. But he’ll do more of it, thanks to Billy Blanks, and win a clear-cut decision.
Joe Rein
The big discussion regarding James Toney and this bout surrounds the efforts he has taken to get himself in top physical condition. But why, after such a long, gluttonous career, is he so worried about being in shape? While the first bout was shrouded in controversy, this one will not be. Peter by decision … While Travis Simms is still undefeated, he has not fought in more than two years. The two years out of the ring will hurt him against Rivera, who is entering the ring with a sense of urgency. Rivera by decision.
Aaron Tallent
From the looks of the weigh- in, each guy is prepared to pick up the action quicker than where they left off last time. The first fight was very close but Toney seemed stronger at the end. Peter worked harder but Toney worked more effectively. If Toney gets busier that should be enough to get the nod, but if he doesn't, go with Peter on effort alone.
Phil Woolever
Articles of 2007
St-Pierre, Liddell, Clementi Win @ UFC 79
LAS VEGAS-A reinvented Georges St. Pierre proved he’s ready for the true Ultimate Fighting Championship welterweight title with a dominating win over Matt Hughes and Chuck Liddell returned to the win column in his big showdown on Saturday.
St. Pierre took the final chapter in the trilogy with Hughes and now is the UFC interim champion at the 170-pound division.
Hughes just shook his head after tapping out before a sold out audience at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas. It was called “Nemesis” and St. Pierre conquered his nemesis.
“Georges is just a better fighter,” said Hughes (43-6) who beat St. Pierre several years ago, but lost two years ago in a title match. “I just don’t know how much longer I got.”
St. Pierre (15-2) found Hughes using a left-handed stance to change up his attack, but the Canadian quickly adapted and used his quickness, skills and raw strength to take Hughes to the ground.
“If it wasn’t for my wrestling training I wouldn’t have been able to adjust,” said St. Pierre who had been preparing to represent Canada’s Olympic wrestling team.
Inside the Octagon the Canadian was never in danger. In fact, Hughes was the fighter teetering for the entire fight that ended in 4:54 of the second round.
It wasn’t supposed to be that way.
Hughes, known for his wrestling skills, just couldn’t solve St. Pierre’s quickness. Every move the Illinois fighter attempted was squashed.
St. Pierre is now promised a fight against the current UFC welterweight champion Matt Serra, who pulled out of the fight with Hughes because of injury.
“If I don’t get my belt back, I’m going to consider myself champion,” said St. Pierre filled in for Serra with less than a month of training.
After dominating the first round on top of Hughes, the second round was even worse as St. Pierre landed elbows and fists. Though the Illinois fighter escaped from underneath, he was quickly thrown down. Within seconds St. Pierre grabbed Hughes left arm and turned it into an inescapable arm bar.
Hughes screamed out: “I tap!”
St. Pierre now awaits Serra to recover from his back injury.
The semi-main event was no less intense.
The light heavyweight showdown between Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell and Brazil’s Wanderlei “The Axe Murderer” Silva was a three-round punch out between two famous sluggers. In the end Liddell’s sharper punches in the first and third round decided the fight despite a knockdown in the second scored by Silva.
Silva (31-8-1) dominated the second round for four minutes and 30 seconds but Liddell rallied and took the Brazilian to the ground. Two judges were somehow impressed by Liddell’s last 30 seconds and inexplicably gave him that round.
With both fighters huffing and puffing, and Silva with a bad cut over his right eye, Liddell seemed the stronger puncher and landed a back-handed fist and a right hand that stunned the former Pride FC fighter Silva. But he survived the round.
The judges scored it 29-28, 30-27 twice for Liddell who won his first bout after back-to-back losses.
“I knew it was a big fight for everybody and especially for me to get back on track,” said Liddell (21-5). “He had a lot more than I thought he had.”
Silva, who was making his first UFC appearance, was gracious in defeat.
“He won,” said Silva. “I gave my best.”
Temecula’s Rameau Sokoudjou fell short against Brazil’s undefeated Lyoto Machida (12-0) in their light heavyweight contest. The Cameroon native was unable to use his punching power with effectiveness against the karate-trained fighter. Then, unexpectedly, Machida landed a left hand that dropped Sokoudjou (4-2) and proceeded to gain an arm triangle that forced a submission at 4:20 of the second round.
“I’ve been working on my ground game,” said Machida who wants a world title match. “I beat the Alaska assassin, the African assassin, what other assassins are left?”
A heavyweight bout featured two Southern Californians eager to punch out. But San Diego’s Eddie “Manic Hispanic” Sanchez’s experience proved decisive in beating Temecula’s Soa Palelei (8-2) with uppercuts for three rounds. With his nose bleeding profusely and sustaining three consecutive uppercuts, referee Mario Yamasaki stopped the fight at 3:24 of the third and final round for a technical knockout.
“He was out of gas,” said Sanchez (10-1). “He was always putting his head down.”
Undercard
A grudge fight between two Louisiana fighters ended in a decisive submission victory by Rich Clementi of Slidell over the favored Melvin Guillard of New Orleans. A rear naked choke at 4:40 seconds of the first round forced Guillard, who had been predicting domination, to tap out. Though the fight was definitively over, Guillard attempted to assault Clementi but referee Herb Dean grabbed the fighter.
“He still didn’t learn his lesson,” said Clementi after Guillard attempted to rush him after the fight. “I validated what he’s known for six years, I’m the better man.”
James “The Sandman” Irvin (13-5-1) was nearly put to sleep by an illegal knee to the eye from Brazil’s newcomer Luis Cane (8-1) in the first round of a light heavyweight fight. Unable to continue, Irvin was declared the winner by disqualification at 1:51. Cane seemed unaware that UFC rules disallow knees to the head while the person is on the ground. Some mixed martial arts organizations allow it.
Former Ultimate Fighter participant Manny Gamburyan (6-3) quickly took his fight to the ground with former boxer Nate Mohr (6-5). Once on the ground the lightweight used his quickness to grab an ankle and twist. Mohr screamed to stop the fight at 1:31 of the first round.
“I’m so sorry for you man,” said Gamburyan who suspects he broke Mohr’s leg. “Nate’s a great guy.”
San Diego’s Dean Lister (10-5) scraped out a unanimous decision win over Bulgaria’s punch-crazy Jordan Rachev (16-2) in a middleweight bout. The judges scored it 29-28 for Lister.
Articles of 2007
Pavlik Or 'Money': Fighter of the Year Is…
There’s nothing like the terror felt when you have a big black bear snarling and snorting and hunting you down, eager to stuff your tender head into his mouth, to make you run as fast as you’ve ever run.
Thanks, Dana White, aka the big black bear.
Thanks for waking up the semi-slumbering powers that be, and forcing them to acknowledge that boxing needed to step up its game, or be eaten alive, and shifted even further back in the sports world’s relevance race, in 2007.
With UFC threatening to snarf up those much lusted after PPV dollars, the suits went into overdrive, and worked smarter, and harder, to give fans compelling matchups.
They agreed to get along to get money, and they relegated the sanctioning bodies, with those moronic mandatories, and instead listened to you, the consumer, and booked the fights that made sense.
Nobody worked smarter or harder than the PR arms for HBO, and “Money” Mayweather, the artist formerly known as Pretty Boy Floyd. Through his appearance on the ABC reality dance competition “Dancing with the Stars,” and stubbornly effective marketing by HBO (24/7 before the De La Hoy and Hatton showdowns were masterful mini-movies which whet appetites of even non fight fans), “Money” emerged as a pay per view attraction who can take the baton as the premier earner from Oscar De La Hoya.
He transcended the sport, and boxing added another player to the mix of fighters that even non-fight fans in the US recognize the name of. Now there’s Mike Tyson, Oscar De La Hoya, and Floyd Mayweather…
Boxing, a sprawling mess of interests lacking a central organization that insures cohesiveness in marketing, and message, and mission, relies on a central figurehead to maintain its precarious perch in the mainstream sports information flow. Mayweather, a savvy marketer who has outgrown his periodic outbreaks of youthful indiscretions, is a superstar that fits our age to a T.
He knows exactly what buttons to push to keep his name in the papers-—or, more accurately today, on computer screens—and feeds us rabid presshounds of negativity and turmoil red meat, with his intra-familial beefs and 50 Cent-inspired rants proclaiming his peerlessness.
The only thing holding Mayweather back is his own talent, probably, as he owns too much of it. He blew out De La Hoya, and Hatton, and like Roy Jones in his heyday, he so dominates his opposition, that drama is missing from his fights. Most of us tune in to the sport to savor the drama that comes from one man reaching deep into the well of heart and guts to bring forth reserves even he didn’t know he possesses, and imposing his will on an opponent who had been imposing his will upon him. That sort of drama, as manufactured by the late Diego Corrales, is the variety that the sweet science can deliver like no other sport.
We saw it in excess in 2007, from my personal choice for 2007 Fighter of the Year, Ohio’s Kelly Pavlik.
He dug into his well, after getting knocked to the floor in the second round of his tussle with middleweight champion Jermain Taylor, and refused to lose.
All of us could apply his tenacity in staying on his feet, and roaring back to topple Taylor with a furious flurry in the seventh round of their Sept. 29 battle, in our own lives. We all could identify with, and root for, the TSS Fighter of the Year.
One could argue that Mayweather, with ultra high profile wins over De La Hoya and Hatton, who did as much as anyone to keep the sport relevant in the last 12 months, deserves the TSS FOTY honor. As referenced before, maybe his superior level of talent has set the bar too high for us nitpickers. We may be prone to be too hesitant to bestow praise on Floyd, because he makes it look too easy. Sorry, Money, it’s possible you are being penalized for just being too damned good. You certainly are the runaway frontrunner for Fighter of the Decade…
Pavlik, we didn’t know how good he was coming in to this year. We knew how good his promoter, Bob Arum, thought he was. But we reserved judgment, unwilling to make too much of wins over Lenord Pierre and Bronco McKart. We became believers, to a point, when the Ohio native showed boxing skill and a closer’s mentality with his January win over Jose Luis Zertuche (KO8), and true believers with his dominant march over Edison Miranda (TKO7), the heavily hyped Colombian who was no match for the Youngstown hitter’s work rate in their May match.
But we still withheld a measure of respect before Pavlik met Taylor, the middleweight king, in Atlantic City. Maybe we had been burned by (not as great as we were led to believe) white hopes in the past, and were worried that hype and marketing were his greatest attributes as a boxer. The respect came pouring forth when he stayed on his trembling legs in the second round of his September scrap with Taylor, and intensified when he closed the show with a KO crack in the seventh.
The fighter has to be rewarded for staying the course, and not allowing himself to be knocked off the title path since turning pro in 2000, and progressing at a sometimes snailish pace, and sticking with his no-name trainer Jack Loew even though some experts urged him to trade Loew in for a flashier model, and battling frail hands, and getting pinched for slugging an off-duty cop in 2005.
Pavlik’s rise in 2007 came the old fashioned way, via training his tail off, and staying on message mentally, and rising to the occasion when the situation offered a softer, easier choice.
There was no mega marketing machine bombarding our short attention spans with a campaign to make Kelly Pavlik into the torchbearer for the sport in 2007.
But the 2007 leg of his march to prominence reaffirms the best of what the sport has to offer, and reminds us that with talents like Pavlik, the sweet science will never crumble into obsolescence.
Articles of 2007
Resolution Time For Harold Sconiers
When Harold Sconiers of Tampa, Florida, looks in the mirror these days he doesn’t see the journeyman heavyweight with a 15-17-2 (10 KOs) record that most other people do.
What he sees is the dynamic, hard-hitting heavyweight who made it to the finals of the 1996 Olympic Trials, and began his pro career with six straight knockouts and one decision victory.
Since being stopped in the first round by then undefeated Bermane Stiverne, who had won all nine of his fights by knockout, in February 2007, Sconiers has completely reassessed his life and career.
He has come to understand what transformed him from an exciting amateur and fledgling young pro with seemingly limitless future to a nominal heavyweight who had at one point lost 10 fights in a row.
Now aligned with a new manager, David Selwyn of New York, he plans on utilizing that newfound knowledge to embark on what he believes will be the comeback story of 2008.
“I always knew I had a lot of talent, but I never let that talent completely develop,” said the 31-year-old Sconiers, who has lost to such notables as Clifford Etienne, Maurice Harris, Donovan “Razor” Ruddock, David Defiagbon, DaVarryl Williamson and Eric Kirkland.
“I had a lot of different problems, but my biggest problems were self doubt and self sabotage. I would do things to make sure I never rose above a certain level.”
During his intensive, exhaustive and brutally honest re-examination of himself, he chose to forego all of the negative aspects of his career and instead focus only on the positive. Through lots of reading and candid discussions with his former trainer Larry Berrien, he went about changing the mindset that made him so comfortable with losing.
The first thing he did was look at his complete record from a totally different perspective. Rather than just dwell on the losses, Sconiers lauded himself for beating six previously unbeaten or once beaten fighters. Among them was Ray Austin, who was 14-1 at the time and later challenged Wladimir Klitschko for the heavyweight title.
He also fought Edward Escobedo, who was 12-1, to a draw, and lost a split decision to Ruddock, who has always been a formidable ring presence.
When he examined his 10 fight losing streak, he realized that his opponents had a combined record of 164-32-8. Of the 32 losses, Harris, who had revitalized his once dismal career in much the same way Sconiers hopes to, had incurred 10 of them.
And the always competitive Sherman Williams, accounted for another 10, which means eight other opponents had only 12 losses between them. Several were undefeated at the time they faced Sconiers.
“Losing to all of those guys gave the boxing world the perception that I was washed up and just didn’t care anymore,” said Sconiers. “I realized I had to change that perception, and the only way to change it was to change my old habits and my old ways of thinking, dissect everything I’d been doing wrong, and working really hard to establish a new belief system.”
Tapping deep into his own psyche, Sconiers came to realize that much of his lack of self worth was rooted in childhood issues. As a kid he had a passive personality, and both of his parents were college graduates who held what he calls high ranking positions in the corporate world.
He was bright enough to skip grades in school and he scored high on IQ tests. In no way was he destined to become a boxer. His parents had told him on many occasions that he would be well-suited as psychiatrist or attorney.
His life changed when his father held a Mike Tyson fight party at the family home. To say that Sconiers was mesmerized would be a gross understatement.
“I was instantly locked in,” said Sconiers. “I told myself that I have to do this.”
Sconiers ventured to the Frontline Outreach Gym in Orlando, where he met Antonio Tarver, who was roaring through the amateur ranks en route to the 1996 Olympics. Because Tarver was a few years older than Sconiers, he became a surrogate big brother to him. To this day, Sconiers has the utmost respect for Tarver as both a fighter and a friend.
During Sconiers’ amateur career, which consisted of 77 fights, of which he lost 9, his mother continuously reminded him that, in her opinion, “boxing was for dummies.”
Still, he managed to win a silver medal in the 1996 U.S. Nationals, where he beat eventual Olympic representative and future heavyweight title challenger Calvin Brock, as well as the finals of the 1996 Olympic Trials. In that tournament he lost to Williamson and Lamon Brewster.
When his pro career began to get derailed, the young and immature Sconiers blamed everyone but himself for his shift in fortune.
“I thought the problem was outside me, and thought everyone was responsible but me,” he said. “I dumped Larry in order to self-manage myself. I left what had always kept me grounded. Some of the fights I lost I could or should have won. There’s no way I should have lost to Etienne, but all I did was show up. The Ruddock fight should have been mine.”
As Sconiers lost interest and motivation, he also began dabbling in drugs and alcohol. More times than not, he would take fights on short notice. Even if he had time to train, he never cared if his opponents were switched or where he was lacing them up. Resigned to the fact that he was just fighting for money, he didn’t train hard, if at all.
He’d also pick up a few dollars working as a sparring partner for the likes of Etienne, Shannon Briggs, Jameel McCline, Larry Donald and Kirk Johnson, but the passion was gone. Many of those fighters, as well as their trainers, told Sconiers to snap out of his trance because he was a lot better fighter than he gave himself credit for.
While working with Etienne, the esteemed trainer Don Turner told Sconiers he could make him heavyweight champion of the world if only he’d “get his (stuff) together.”
Sconiers said he was at his personal abyss in mid-2003, when he was stopped by Kirkland, who was 16-1, in the first round in Vallejo, California.
“That was a real bad time for me,” he said. “I was up all night using drugs and alcohol and just didn’t care about anything.”
Although it would be nearly four more years before Sconiers embarked on his personal renaissance, when he looks back on his sordid past that is his most vivid memory. He has learned to use that memory to his advantage.
“A lot of people go down the same route I did and destroy themselves completely,” he said. “I was close to that point around the time of the Kirkland fight, but managed to survive another four years. It is so obvious to me now that I was trying to destroy myself.”
Sconiers is the first to concede that once you fall into the role of an opponent, it is hard to extricate yourself.
“A lot of guys go through this and fall by the wayside,” he said. “Look at Emanuel Burton (Augustus). He’s an immensely talented guy who’s good enough to be competitive and probably beat anyone. But he is in that opponent role, which is hard to snap out of.”
Having done lots of reading on positive thinking and overcoming psychological roadblocks, as well as completely revising his physical training regimen, Sconiers believes he has snapped out of it.
Besides the steadfast support of his beloved wife of six years, Jennifer, who just earned her master’s degree, he believes that his association with Selwyn is a pivotal component to the success he foresees for himself.
They plan on having a momentous and memorable 2008.
“Harold says he is going to be the Cinderella Man of 2008,” said Selwyn. “We plan on keeping a very busy schedule. History has shown that heavyweights are always just a few wins away from redemption. At his best, Harold is very good. It is undeniable that he was his own worst enemy in the past. Now he believes in himself, Larry believes in him, and I believe in him. I’m really looking forward to working with him so he can reach his full potential.”
“We plan on a busy schedule and a lot of upsets,” added Sconiers. “After my first couple of wins, people will probably say they were a fluke. I’m not quite the Cinderella Man and I’m not quite Rocky, but I am an underdog who can make it. Hope sells in boxing, and I plan on being one of the biggest stories of the new year.”
Manager Dave Selwyn can be contacted at: Boxingkid@aol.com or 845-893-2829.
*photo courtesy Harold Sconiers
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