Mayweather Should Challenge Golovkin To Prove He’s “OOTBE”

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10 years ago

August 13, 2014

There’s a fighter today, and he just happens to be the top rated pound for pound fighter in boxing. He likes to wear a hat with the letters “TBE” across the front of it. “TBE” stands for “The Best Ever” but could just as easily stand for “The Best Evader.” No, Floyd Mayweather 46-0 (26) isn’t the best ever and really isn’t in the conversation regarding who’s the best ever fighter/boxer to anyone who was born before, say, 1980.

Yes, Floyd is undefeated, but when his name comes up, at least in a majority of the conversations I’ve had with boxing fans, the first thing that they say is, “Why won’t he fight Manny Pacquiao?” Which really makes my answer tough because I’m one who never once wavered in my belief that Mayweather would’ve defeated Pacquiao had they fought when a bout between them was a legitimate Super Fight circa spring 2010.

Sugar Ray Leonard was once asked how a fight between he and Mayweather would’ve turned out had they met in their respective prime. Leonard always answers that question like a politician running for office. However, on this particular occasion he said, to paraphrase, Do you think Thomas Hearns, Marvin Hagler or Roberto Duran would’ve ducked fighting Manny Pacquiao? And when you think of it like that, Mayweather really does look small. Because if you live in reality, Mayweather-Pacquiao never being made had much more to do with Mayweather’s reluctance than anything else. The supposed “TBE” wouldn’t fight a featherweight who moved up in weight.

Since he turned pro back in 1996 there’s only been one fight that boxing fans have really wanted to see Mayweather agree to. And that was a fight with Pacquiao circa 2009/2010 when the outcome was somewhat in doubt. Only Mayweather thought it was too risky and sat on his hands and threw out every excuse imaginable that some foolishly even accepted. Well, that’s water under the bridge now. However, there is something Mayweather could do to erase the stench of not giving the fans the only fight they ever really wanted from him, and that’s fight WBA middleweight title holder Gennady Golovkin 30-0 (27).

Golovkin is without a doubt the most formidable fighter in professional boxing weighing 160 or less. He’s undefeated and one of the most talked about fighters in boxing who is at or near his prime. Mayweather should challenge Golovkin for his middleweight title without a catch-weight clause attached to the deal. Yes, Golovkin says he can make 154, but we’ve never seen him fight that low and haven’t clue-one if he’s the same fighter at that low weight. Beating Golovkin at 154 is not beating the fighter we’ve seen through 10 middleweight title bouts. And that’s what would be the intrigue of the fight. Could Mayweather beat the version of Golovkin that’s gone through the middleweight division? We know Gennady is a beast at 160 and that’s the weight they should fight at. Floyd fought Canelo Alvarez, who balloons up higher after the weigh in than Golovkin does after making weight, and Floyd had no qualms with that.

Mayweather is often compared to Sugar Ray Leonard from a skill vantage point. In fact Floyd has said on the record that’s he’s even greater than Leonard was. Which in my opinion is as Mike Tyson would say, preposterous. However, if Mayweather wants to show that he has half the character and guts that Leonard had, he should try and follow Ray’s lead and challenge Golovkin.

It was April of 1987 and Leonard, who’d only fought once in five years, faced Hagler for the WBC middleweight title. At the time Hagler was 32, as is Golovkin. Hagler was the undisputed middleweight champ for nearly seven years at the time and only the great Roberto Duran went the distance with Marvin in a title bout, something 11 other fighters failed to do. And Leonard had never fought above junior middleweight before fighting Hagler, which also applies to Mayweather if he fights Golovkin.

Some will say yeah, but Leonard demanded 12 rounds instead of 15, even though Hagler’s last two title bouts before he fought Leonard were only scheduled for 12 rounds. This applies to title bouts today, being that they’re all scheduled for 12 rounds and have been for over 25 years. Leonard also wanted to fight with 10 ounce gloves instead of eight ounce, which was the protocol at the time. Guess what, Mayweather and Golovkin both fight wearing 10 ounce gloves. Also, Leonard wanted a 20 foot ring when he challenged Hagler and he got it. Wow, this is nuts, but Mayweather always fights in a ring that’s at least 20 foot. This is crazy, but Mayweather could challenge Golovkin and automatically receive the same advantages that Leonard bargained to get in order to fight Hagler….and Floyd wouldn’t even have to negotiate for them.

And let’s face it, who would you rather be, the fighter trying to take Hagler’s title away from him in 1987, or the one trying to take Golovkin’s away from him in 2014? I know which line I’d be in – that long one in front of Golovkin that would extend way, way around the block. Golovkin is no doubt a formidable fighter and it’ll take a special fighter to beat him, but again, I live in reality, and there’s no way in the world Golovkin of today would take Hagler’s title in 1987. He might go the distance, but he’d probably get beat up worse than John “The Beast” Mugabi did when he fought Hagler in Marvin’s last bout before meeting Leonard. And don’t think Leonard caught Hagler at the perfect time, because had Ray not defeated Marvin, he would’ve reigned as middleweight champ for another two years if he wanted to. There wasn’t a chance in the world that Hagler would’ve lost his title to the likes of Sumbu Kalambay, Michael Nunn or James Toney circa 1988-89. No way.

Think about the credibility that Mayweather would gain if he actually fought Golovkin in a legitimate middleweight title bout without any gimmicks or cons. And if he beat the undefeated Golovkin, he could have a hat made that read OOTBE…”One Of The Best Ever” and it would actually apply.

Floyd Mayweather is a great fighter, but I don’t care what anyone says, his stature and record are very much in large part due to his brilliant managing skills and picking his opponents. He’ll retire with his health and wealth, on that there can be no denying. However, what about his respect? For his entire career there’s been one opponent, Manny Pacquiao, that boxing fans clamored for him to face and for whatever his reasons, the fight never happened. Think about that, if the boxing world pined for Leonard, Duran or Hearns to fight Pacquiao because there was a question as to whether they could beat him or not, do you think they would’ve made the fight a reality?

There’s one name in boxing between welterweight and middleweight, excluding Mayweather, that fans are excited about, and that’s Golovkin. If Floyd wanted to prove beyond all doubt that he’s maybe OOTBE, he’d go for Golovkin before he gets better. And the funny thing about it is, Golovkin isn’t even a big middleweight and would only come to the ring a few pounds heavier than the 165 that Marcos Maidana did when he fought Floyd three months ago in his last bout.

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Avila Perspective, Chap. 281: The Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia Show

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8 hours ago

April 18, 2024

David A. Avila

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Over the years bouts between old foes such as Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia tend to be surprising.

Yes, both are only 25 but have known each other for many years.

When undisputed super lightweight champion Haney (31-0, 15 KOs) steps into the prize ring at Barclays Center to meet challenger Garcia (24-1, 20 KOs) on Saturday, April 20, fans will be witnessing the continuation of a feud that began more than a decade ago.

And though the champion is a heavy favorite, familiarity is Garcia’s best weapon heading into their fight on the Golden Boy Promotions card that will be shown on PPV.COM with Jim Lampley and friends. DAZN pay-per-view is also streaming the card.

In many ways Haney and Garcia have ventured down the same path. From amateur sensations to fighting in Mexico while teens to asking for the biggest challenges available.

“Whichever version of Ryan shows up on April 20, I will be ready for him. Ryan Garcia is just another opponent to me,” said Haney who holds the WBC super lightweight title after his win over Regis Prograis.

The first time I saw Haney as a pro he battled the dangerous Mexican contender Juan Carlos Burgos at Pechanga Resort and Casino in Temecula. It was an impressive performance against a fighter who fought three times for a world title.

Haney was 19 at the time.

My first look at Garcia as a pro was in his first bout in the U.S. when he met Puerto Rico’s Jonathan Cruz at the Exchange in downtown Los Angeles. The Boricua looked at Garcia and tried intimidating him with stares, taunts and the usual patter. During the fight both swung and missed until the second round when Garcia zeroed in and took him out.

Garcia had just turned 18, the legal age to fight in California.

Both fighters did not have the Olympics credentials that lead to fame. But their talent has allowed them to fight through the dense smoke that is professional boxing.

Haney has defeated numerous world champions such as Prograis, Vasyl Lomachenko and George Kambosos Jr., while Garcia has stopped champions Javier Fortuna and Luke Campbell.

As amateurs, Garcia and Haney battled six times with each winning three.

“They know each other very well,” said Oscar De La Hoya of Golden Boy Promotions. “Ryan is going to beat Devin Haney.”

Haney has a buttery-smooth style with one of the best jabs in boxing. He’s very adept at keeping distance and not allowing anyone to fight him inside. His reflexes are outstanding, yet he seldom fights inside. That’s his weakness.

Garcia fights tall and has superb hand speed and a lightning quick left hook. Though his defense lacks tightness his ability to rip off three-punch combinations in a blink of an eye pauses opponents from bullying their way inside.

“These guys always just look at me and look at me like I don’t know how to box,” said Garcia on social media. “Why was I one of the best fighters in the amateurs. Why was I a 15-time National champion…why did I beat everyone I came across.”

Haney is a strong favorite by oddsmakers to defeat Garcia. But you can never tell when it comes to fighters that know each other well and are athletically gifted.

When Sergio Mora challenged Vernon Forrest he was a big underdog. When Tim Bradley fought Manny Pacquiao the first time, he was also the underdog. And when Andy Ruiz met Anthony Joshua few gave him a chance.

Haney and Garcia have history in the ring. It should be an interesting battle.

PPV.COM

Jim Lampley will be leading the broadcast on PPV.COM for the Haney-Garcia card at Barclays and texting with fans on the card live. He will be accompanied by journalists Lance Pugmire, Dan Conobbio and former champion Chris Algieri.

The PPV.COM broadcast begins at 5 p.m. PT. and is available in Canada and the USA.

Other News

MMA stars Nate Diaz and Jorge Masvidal will be holding a media day event on Friday, April 19, at NOVO at L.A. Doors open at 5:30 p.m.

Diaz and Masvidal will be boxing against each other in a grudge match on June 1 at the KIA Forum in Inglewood, Calif. The two MMA stars met five years at UFC 244 with Masvidal winning by TKO over Diaz due to cuts.

This is a grudge match, but under boxing rules.

Fight card in Commerce, Calif.

360 Promotions returns to Commerce Casino on Saturday April 20 with undefeated super lightweight Cain Sandoval leading the charge.

Sandoval (12-0) faces Angel Rebollar (8-3) in the main event that will be shown live on UFC Fight Pass. Also on the card are two female events including hot prospect Lupe Medina (5-0) versus Sabrina Persona (3-1) in a minimumweight clash.

Doors open at 4 p.m.

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Boxing Odds and Ends: The Heavyweight Merry-Go-Round

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2 days ago

April 16, 2024

Arne K. Lang

Boxing Odds and Ends: The Heavyweight Merry-Go-Round

There were few surprises when co-promoters Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren and their benefactor HE Turki Alalshikh held a press conference in London this past Monday to unveil the undercard for the Beterbiev-Bivol show at Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on June 1. Most of the match-ups had already been leaked.

For die-hard boxing fans, Beterbiev-Bivol is such an enticing fight that it really doesn’t need an attractive undercard. Two undefeated light heavyweights will meet with all four relevant belts on the line in a contest where the oddsmakers straddled the fence. It’s a genuine “pick-‘em” fight based on the only barometer that matters, the prevailing odds.

But Beterbiev-Bivol has been noosed to a splendid undercard, a striking contrast to Saturday’s Haney-Garcia $69.99 (U.S.) pay-per-view in Brooklyn, an event where the undercard, in the words of pseudonymous boxing writer Chris Williams, is an absolute dumpster fire.

The two heavyweight fights that will bleed into Beterbiev-Bivol, Hrgovic vs. Dubois and Wilder vs. Zhang, would have been stand-alone main events before the incursion of Saudi money.

Hrgovic-Dubois

Filip Hrgovic (17-0, 13 KOs) and Daniel Dubois (20-2, 19 KOs) fought on the same card in Riyadh this past December. Hrgovic, the Croatian, was fed a softie in the form of Australia’s Mark De Mori who he dismissed in the opening round. Dubois, a Londoner, rebounded from his loss to Oleksandr Usyk with a 10^th-round stoppage of corpulent Jarrell “Big Baby” Miller.

There’s an outside chance that Hrgovic vs. Dubois may be sanctioned by the IBF for the world heavyweight title.

The May 18 showdown between Oleksandr Usyk and Tyson Fury has a rematch clause. The IBF is next in line in the rotation system for a unified heavyweight champion and the organization has made it plain that the winner of Usyk-Fury must fulfill his IBF mandatory before an intervening bout.

The best guess is that the Usyk-Fury winner will relinquish the IBF belt. If so, Hrgovic and Dubois may fight for the vacant title although a more likely scenario is that the organization will keep the title vacant so that the winner can fight Anthony Joshua.

Wilder-Zhang

The match between Deontay Wilder (43-3-1, 42 KOs) and Zhilei Zhang (26-2-1, 21 KOs) is a true crossroads fight as both Wilder, 38, and Zhang, who turns 41 in May, are nearing the end of the road and the loser (unless it’s a close and entertaining fight) will be relegated to the rank of a has-been. In fact, Wilder has hinted that this may be his final rodeo.

Both are coming off a loss to Joseph Parker.

Wilder last fought on the card that included Hrgovic and Dubois and was roundly out-pointed by a man he was expected to beat. It’s a quick turnaround for Zhang who opposed Parker on March 8 and lost a majority decision.

Other Fights

Either of two other fights may steal the show on the June 1 event.

Raymond Ford (15-0-1, 8 KOs) meets Nick Ball (19-0-1, 11 KOs) in a 12-round featherweight contest. New Jersey’s Ford will be defending the WBA world title he won with a come-from-behind, 12th-round stoppage of Otabek Kholmatov in an early contender for Fight of the Year. Liverpool’s “Wrecking” Ball, a relentless five-foot-two sparkplug, had to settle for a draw in his title fight with Rey Vargas despite winning the late rounds and scoring two knockdowns.

Hamzah Sheeraz (19-0, 15 KOs) meets fellow unbeaten Austin “Ammo” Williams (16-0, 11 KOs) in a 12-round middleweight match. East London’s Sheeraz, the son of a former professional cricket player, is unknown in the U.S. although he trained for his recent fights at the Ten Goose Boxing Gym in California. Riding a skein of 13 straight knockouts, he has a date with WBO title-holder Janibek Alimkhanuly if he can get over this hurdle.

The Forgotten Heavyweight

“Unbeaten for seven years, the man nobody wants to fight,” intoned ring announcer Michael Buffer by way of introduction. Buffer was referencing Michael Hunter who stood across the ring from his opponent Artem Suslenkov.

This scene played out this past Saturday in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. It was Hunter’s second fight in three weeks. On March 23, he scored a fifth-round stoppage of a 46-year-old meatball at a show in Zapopan, Mexico.

The second-generation “Bounty Hunter,” whose only defeat prior to last weekend came in a 12-rounder with Oleksandr Usyk, has been spinning his wheels since TKOing the otherwise undefeated Martin Bakole on the road in London in 2018. Two fights against hapless opponents on low-budget cards in Mexico and a couple of one-round bouts for the Las Vegas Hustle, an entry in the fledgling and largely invisible Professional Combat League, are the sum total of his activity, aside from sparring, in the last two-and-a-half years.

Hunter’s chances of getting another big-money fight took a tumble in Tashkent where he lost a unanimous decision in a dull affair to the unexceptional Suslenkov who was appearing in his first 10-round fight. The scores of the judges were not announced.

You won’t find this fight listed on boxrec. As Jake Donovan notes, the popular website will not recognize a fight conducted under the auspices of a rogue commission. (Another fight you won’t find on boxrec for the same reason is Nico Ali Walsh’s 6-round split decision over the 9-2-1 Frenchman, Noel Lafargue, in the African nation of Guinea on Dec. 16, 2023. You can find it on YouTube, but according to boxrec, boxing’s official record-keeper, it never happened.)

Anderson-Merhy Redux

The only thing missing from this past Saturday’s match in Corpus Christi, Texas, between Jared Anderson and Ryad Merhy was the ghost of Robert Valsberg.

Valsberg, aka Roger Vaisburg, was the French referee who disqualified Ingemar Johansson for not trying in his match with LA’s Ed Sanders in the finals of the heavyweight competition at the 1952 Helsinki Olympics. Valsberg tossed Johansson out of the ring after two rounds and Johansson was denied the silver medal. The Swede redeemed himself after turning pro, needless to say, when he demolished Floyd Patterson in the first of their three meetings.

Merhy was credited with throwing only 144 punches, landing 34, over the course of the 10 rounds. Those dismal figures yet struck many onlookers as too high. (This reporter has always insisted that the widely-quoted CompuBox numbers should be considered approximations.)

Whatever the true number, it was a disgraceful performance by Merhy who actually showed himself to have very fast hands on the few occasions when he did throw a punch. With apologies to Delfine Persoon, a spunky lightweight, U.S. boxing promoters should think twice before inviting another Belgian boxer to our shores.

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Anderson Cruises by Vapid Merhy and Ajagba edges Vianello in Texas

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5 days ago

April 14, 2024

Arne K. Lang

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Jared Anderson returned to the ring tonight on a Top Rank card in Corpus Christi, Texas. Touted as the next big thing in the heavyweight division, Anderson (17-0, 15 KOs) hardly broke a sweat while cruising past Ryad Merhy in a bout with very little action, much to the disgruntlement of the crowd which started booing as early as the second round. The fault was all Merhy as he was reluctant to let his hands go. Somehow, he won a round on the scorecard of judge David Sutherland who likely fell asleep for a round for which he could be forgiven.

Merhy, born in the Ivory Coast but a resident of Brussels, Belgium, was 32-2 (26 KOs) heading in after fighting most of his career as a cruiserweight. He gave up six inches in height to Anderson who was content to peck away when it became obvious to him that little would be coming back his way.

Anderson may face a more daunting adversary on Monday when he has a court date in Romulus, Michigan, to answer charges related to an incident in February where he drove his Dodge Challenger at a high rate speed, baiting the police into a merry chase. (Weirdly, Anderson entered the ring tonight wearing the sort of helmet that one associates with a race car driver.)

Co-Feature

In the co-feature, a battle between six-foot-six former Olympians, Italy’s Guido Vianello started and finished strong, but Efe Ajagba had the best of it in the middle rounds and prevailed on a split decision. Two of the judges favored Ajagba by 96-94 scores with the dissenter favoring the Italian from Rome by the same margin.

Vianello had the best round of the fight. He staggered Ajagba with a combination in round two. At the end of the round, a befuddled Ajagba returned to the wrong corner and it appeared that an upset was brewing. But the Nigerian, who trains in Las Vegas under Kay Koroma, got back into the fight with a more varied offensive attack and better head movement. In winning, he improved his ledger to 20-1 (14). Vianello, who sparred extensively with Daniel Dubois in London in preparation for this fight, declined to 12-2-1 in what was likely his final outing under the Top Rank banner.

Other Bouts of Note

In the opening bout on the main ESPN platform, 35-year-old super featherweight Robson Conceicao, a gold medalist for Brazil in the 2016 Rio Olympics, stepped down in class after fighting Emanuel Navarrete tooth-and-nail to a draw in his previous bout and scored a seventh-round stoppage of Jose Ivan Guardado who was a cooked goose after slumping to the canvas after taking a wicked shot to the liver. Guardado made it to his feet, but the end was imminent and the referee waived it off at the 2:27 mark.

Conceicao improved to 18-1 (9 KOs). It was the U.S. debut for Guardado (15-2-1), a boxer from Ensenada, Mexico who had done most of his fighting up the road in Tijuana.

Ruben Villa, the pride of Salinas, California, improved to 22-1 (7) and moved one step closer to a match with WBC featherweight champion Rey Vargas with a unanimous 10-round decision over Tijuana’s Cristian Cruz (22-7-1). The judges had it 97-93 and 98-92 twice.

Cruz, the son of former IBF world featherweight title-holder Cristobal Cruz, was better than his record. He entered the bout on a 21-1-1 run after losing five of his first seven pro fights.

Cleveland southpaw Abdullah Mason, who turned 20 earlier this month, continued his fast ascent up the lightweight ladder with a fourth-round stoppage of Ronal Ron.

Mason (13-0, 11 KOs) put Ron on the canvas in the opening round with a short left hook. He scored a second knockdown with a shot to the liver. A flurry of punches, a diverse array, forced the stoppage at the 1:02 mark of round four. A 25-year-old SoCal-based Venezuelan, the spunky but out-gunned Ron declined to 14-6.

Charly Suarez, a 35-year-old former Olympian from the Philippines, ranked #5 at junior lightweight by the IBF, advanced to 17-0 (9) with a unanimous 8-round decision over SoCal’s Louie Coria (5-7).

This was a tactical fight. In the final round, Coria, subbing for 19-0 Henry Lebron, caught the Filipino off-balance and knocked him into the ropes which held him up. It was scored a knockdown, but came too little, too late for Coria who lost by scores of 76-75 and 77-74 twice.

Suarez, whose signature win was a 12^th-round stoppage of the previously undefeated Aussie Paul Fleming in Sydney, may be headed to a rematch with Robson Conceicao. They fought as amateurs in 2016 in Kazakhstan and Suarez lost a narrow 6-round decision.

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